<p>bthomp: This is really interesting. Thanks for finding it. </p>
<p>It’s gratifying to see that 96% + of students would recommend the program. And there were areas of strength as well al some ares of improvement as well.</p>
<p>Again thanks for sharing this.</p>
<p>The most interesting data from this report, was that pointed out by bthomp… ie lower than desirable levels of skill as judged by professors.</p>
<p>It’s important to note that the 96% number cited came from only 61.3% of graduates who returned the survey. Surveys with that low a return rate are virtually useless.</p>
<p>Those who understand the statistical science behind interpreting surveys will recognize that any random response survey with a response rate below 80% suffers from an inherent non-response bias and its results are far less statistically valid. The choice to respond is not random and carries meaning in and of itself.</p>
<p>Since roughly 40% of grads didn’t even care enough to return this survey about their own school, one can not draw any meaningful conclusions from the positive number cited for satisfaction. </p>
<p>Since college alumni are typically some of the most positively-biased folks you’ll meet regarding their chosen schools, a 40% non-return rate on a graduate exit survey is telling in and of itself.</p>
<p>I just commented on the report.</p>
<p>Not certain about the survey. It is true that the higher the response rate the higher the accuracy. If it was via Mail or email the 61% is remarkably high. The industry I work in, if we obtain a 10% response it is a good day. Just doesn’t specify how the survey was administered.</p>
<p>Anyway, I appreciate that they made the effort to identify deficits and are taking steps toward “CQI”. Additionally, we don’t know if the Bloomington campus is undergoing the same 4 year review? </p>
<p>Again, thanks to Bthomp for the information. Kelley Indianapolis is going to great lengths to maintain and improve quality. This report saw some areas to improve and they are acting upon them.</p>
<p>Improvement is a good thing.</p>
<p>All colleges seek to improve.</p>
<p>Big Pharma surveys are not comparable to college exit surveys given to a graduating class of 305 kids. 119 IUPUI grads chose not to respond. For a targeted audience survey with known affinity, 61% is a poor result in any universe regardless of delivery medium. Statistically, it makes the resulting data almost useless. Perhaps that’s why the report cites no error rate or mode data.</p>
<p>For more information on surveys, people should check out the Center For Survey Research at IU Bloomington
<a href=“http://csr.indiana.edu/”>http://csr.indiana.edu/</a></p>
<p>I will take your word on the survey point. I honestly don’t know.</p>
<p>Just thanking a poster for posting information I found interesting.</p>
<p>Again, I am no expert so I must take it at face value.</p>
<p>Not really sure why you want to discredit the report? </p>
<p>Not discrediting the report at all… Quite the contrary, I think it reveals much about IUPUI. I’m just not sure who cares in this IUB forum. </p>
<p>Moderator: This discussion should be moved to the IUPUI forum so people interested in IUPUI can benefit.</p>
<p>Point taken.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
The recruitment statistics and regional salary results are now being published on the Kelley Indianapolis website. You will find a 93% placement rate overall and 97% for Accounting at IUPUI. Which I believe are very comparable to IUB.
Also, If you look at salary for the Indianapolis area (where a lot of Kelley Indianapolis kids live) they are the similar as well. I think about 1700$ less than IUB on average.
Both excellent.
Bthomp was asking for this:
For those interested:
Kelley Indianapolis surpassed IUB Kelley for placement. A great school in his own right.
http://kelley.iupui.edu/cpo/employers/salary-statistics/
http://kelley.iu.edu/UCSO/Statistics/salaryStats/page40582.html
http://kelley.iupui.edu/cpo/employers/salary-statistics/
http://kelley.iu.edu/UCSO/Statistics/salaryStats/page40582.html
Enough said! Sorry. A good option!
I have the following questions :
Cost is not a factor for me 
Thanks-in-Advance 
Kelley Direct is an online MBA program, so I don’t know why you care about location. However, I think you may be confused since you said freshman.
Your transfer questions are best directed to Kelley, so call them.
IUB is the better choice for undergrads due to national recognition and recruiting. (Take the shill posts to the contrary with a grain of salt since lots transfer from IUPUI, but few if any transfer into IUPUI.)
Of course if you live in and want to stay in Indy, IUPUI may be for you.
So, this thread is renewed. I wish it wasn’t. @IUBOOS helps a lot of people and a good poster. But my guess is that they are either from Chicago suburbs or New Jersey, convinced their parents to pay for them to go to Bloomington and and has a very high level of belief that IUB is somehow different and better than the same school at Kelley Indianapolis.
Even though they know nothing about Kelley Indianapolis.The Chicago suburbanites are known for this. Not sure why. They even get personal by calling others names like "shills’ when it’s not what they want to hear, its really strange.
Please do your own research @MrAccountant. To the same extent that I advocate for both Kelley schools, (look at what they both accomplish). Look out for others who will dissuade you from looking at both. You will see in my posts that the placement at Kelley Indianapolis is more Midwest, but there is appeal to this.
If you are going into finance and eventually want a family, you surely understand the difference between Indianapolis (or Cincinnati, Louisville etc.) versus NYC or Chicago. And what that means for quality of life.
I have direct knowledge of both schools. I just think that Kelley Indianapolis is a great choice for International Students because of it’s urban setting. At least as good as IUB.
96% placement rate at Kelley Indianapolis. 95% at IUB. Both are world class.
I went back to and read your post #111 and it sounds like you eventually wish is to end up at IUB. And you are not direct to either. So, to answer you direct question. Go to IUB and do well so that you wont have to transfer .You will love the campus vibe at IUB.
hi, i am new to this forum. pls advise between these 5 , we have applied for these and
how wud u rank; IUPUI-Kelly, Penn state-Smeal, Ohio state, UC irvine, Michigan. currently admit received from iupui-kelly and penn state smeal and waiting for others.
pls note - this is for major in finance/business
Please note that if you correspond with the Kelley School in Indianapolis please spell it KELLEY or you will not get in. The Kelley School is world class.
This why you go to school.
http://kelley.iupui.edu/cpo/employers/salary-statistics/
http://kelley.iu.edu/UCSO/Statistics/salaryStats/page40582.html
Good rankings for the Kelley School today. Number 4 overall and #1 for Public schools.
Both campuses (Indianapolis and Bloomington) .
http://kelley.iu.edu/ click the program tab and see what you see.
http://news.indiana.edu/releases/iu/2016/04/2016-bloomberg-businessweek-undergraduate-rankings.shtml
There’s not one word about IUPUI in either the Kelley press release or the Bloomberg report.
Facts are always appreciated.