Isn't the language requirement discrimination ?

[Kender]

<p>IGETC agreements can and do change from year to year based on course offerings. And the one you just linked to is for SMC, not WLAC. Which campus are we looking at to find some form of discrimination in “the way things are worded,” as you put it earlier in the thread?</p>

<p>However, this one also has an even more detailed section about what can be done to meet the requirement:

MEETING FOREIGN LANGUAGE REQUIREMENT (UC ONLY)
The Foreign Language requirement for IGETC may be met in one of the following ways:

1. Satisfactory completion of two years of high school coursework in a Language Other Than English (LOTE), with a grade of C- or better in each course. Two years must be in the same
   language.
2. Satisfactory completion of a course (or courses) at a college or university with a grade of C or better in each course.
3. Satisfactory completion, with C grades or better, of two years formal schooling at the sixth grade level or higher in an institution where the language of instruction is not English.
   4. Satisfactory score of the SAT II: Subject Test in Languages Other Than English (LOTE).
   5. Satisfactory score, 3 or higher, on the College Board Advanced Placement (AP) Examinations in Languages Other Than English (LOTE).
   6. Satisfactory score, 5 or higher, on the International Baccalaureate (IB) Higher Level Examinations in Language Other Than English (LOTE).
   7. Satisfactory completion of an achievement test administered by a community college, university, or other college in a Language Other Than English (LOTE).
   8. Language Other Than English “O” Level Exam with a grade of A, B or C.
   9. Language Other Than English International “A” Level Exam with a score of 5, 6 or 7.
4. A Defense Language Institute Language Other Than English course which is indicated as passed with a C or higher on the official transcript.

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<p>I have bolded all that do not require actually taking a class.</p>

<p>The fact that you can test out (thus having the same option as other students) is the point that proves there is no discrimination. Unless you can provide some document that says that a student is exempt purely on the basis of their nationality (and not because of actual demonstrated proficiency in a language other than English), then there is no discrimination.</p>

<p>If testing out was not possible and there was written proof that your nationality was the reason and foreign students were exempt based on their nationality alone, then you would have a plausible debate point that there is discrimination at work.</p>

<p>While it is a legitimate concern that studies are difficult when one has to work, think about this: You are still able to take the time to discuss this on an internet forum. Why not take that extra time to study?</p>

<p>I think many were right that this thread was created less out of real belief of actual discrimination and more out of a dislike of the requirement (I’m not buying the “thought experiment” line, sorry). It grasps at straws to try and find a way to discredit the requirement simply out of personal taste. The requirement is minimal at many CCCs in recent years and several majors may recommend a language, but do not require it. Avoid those that require it.</p>

<p>Making threads that accuse an institution of discriminating when they clearly are not is unethical and really does not speak well to your character. This is an incredibly serious charge to make. Making it on false grounds is unseemly. Just be honest that you dislike the requirement and do not understand why it is required because it is not an area you excel in. Not everyone does so you’re not alone.</p>

<p>I am sorry you are struggling. I mean that sincerely and I wish you the best with meeting this requirement in a satisfactory manner.</p>