<p>hehehehe.</p>
<p>we are pathetic =)</p>
<p>“god just is” isn’t even an argument. It’s an exercise in ignorance.</p>
<p>ok let me say this again… occams razor. the simplest explantion is the best one. god creating the universe is much more simpler</p>
<p>Actually, Occam’s razor works against god.</p>
<p>Okay, whatever, I’m done arguing. It’s always foolish to argue religion with religious people. I just can’t understand how you can mindlessly believe something–especially something that is responsible for more death than any war combined.</p>
<p>Read the bible. God is the Great I Am. There is no other way to say it. He is above everything and the creator of what we know as the universe. How could he be created if he cant die? Hoodhopper is right…the cycle of creation began with him and it ends with him.</p>
<p>Mmkay That’s why I posted the turtles thing…</p>
<p>Watch Dogma and listen to Chris Rock. That will end this argument.</p>
<p>how so qwilde?</p>
<p>just let you guys know i believe that there is some sort of god out there but god has no affect on my life. i believe that i do have some sort of preset destiny but i also think that i have free will.</p>
<p>mmkay, how foolish of you. Even though god created people and religion god is not responsible fo their actions.</p>
<p>lol, turtles thing? i dont know what that is…sorry, i didnt read all of hte previous posts.</p>
<p>oh of course–how horrible for GOD to be responsible for EVIL!!! God is only responsible for GOOD (all good, that is–humans do no good of their own momentum)</p>
<p>go back a few :)</p>
<p>But really I think this thread needs to end as entertaining as it is. This type of religious argument always gets ugly and noone ever turns out the better for it. Your politics and your religion… keep it to yourself lol.</p>
<p>mmkay…i dont know how many times im going to repeat this…</p>
<p>i believe in God because thats the only plausible explanation for the existence of this infinite universe and the cosmic order…its the only way to provide an explanation for doing good in the universe. The bad things that happen are also a plan from God which humans dont understand just like the infinite other things we dont understand.</p>
<p>Someone earlier said that the greatest human minds didnt believe in God. So what. thats because they try to rationalize and put into logic something so far beyond the human mind. ONCE AGAIN…thats why its called FAITH.</p>
<p>“mmkay, how foolish of you. Even though god created people and religion god is not responsible fo their actions.”</p>
<p><em>sigh</em>…god’s only responsible when it’s convenient and good. i love how this works…anyway, i’m going to go read the book of bobism now, or choose from the other 1000 religions on this planet and maybe figure out which one to believe. or not. night.</p>
<p>People are responsible for GOOD! People who have the spirit of God in their lives. People without God are responsible for EVIL!</p>
<p>okay Jyankees?</p>
<p>This Is Why It Sucks To Be Agnostic</p>
<p>Explaining the unknown by god only truly answers how something happened not why. Subsequently, using god as an explanation raises more questions than it answers.</p>
<p>No, I’m sorry I’ll have to stick with the best human minds instead of religion.</p>
<p>So yourbfwantsmee: I don’t believe in God so I’m incapable of good? Way to be the most insensitive all-knowing moron in the history of the world.</p>
<p>qwilde:</p>
<p>god doesn’t follow logic, so the rock analogy does not apply to him. it may not convince you, but a christian will accept this answer. not because they are ignorant, but b/c they are ok with not having a solution that men could understand.</p>
<p>atheism is not attributed to ignorance. many of the most intellecutal people are atheists, but that do not make them better than people who choose faith. and as far as i know, Einstein, Darwin, and Hawkings all did believe in god at some point in their lives. einstein has the dice analogy, darwin rejected all his findings before he died (maybe this has nothing to do w/ religion, i’m not sure) and hawkings mentions god multiple times in his writing ( i don’t know if he is a chrisitian, do tell me if you know). intellectualism often does not mix with religiousness, but it does not make it superior.</p>