This link should work if you want to see what DOJ has released (but not yet clawed back) so far:
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Liar Liar Pants on Fire
Howard Lutnick was invited for lunch with Epstein on his island, and that appears to have taken place. On Dec. 24, 2012, a person whose name was redacted wrote to Lutnick on behalf of Epstein to tell him “it was nice seeing you.”
But Lutnick had claimed in an interview last October with the New York Post that he and his wife had cut ties with Epstein in 2005, after taking a tour of his New York townhouse. They had moved in next door to Epstein.
Lutnick told the New York Post that Epstein had shown them his massage room and commented on the massages he received there. Lutnick said he and his wife quickly left, “and in the six to eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house, my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again.”
A Commerce Department spokesperson, in a statement to CBS News, said that Lutnick “had limited interactions with Mr. Epstein in the presence of his wife and has never been accused of wrongdoing.”
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Howard Lutnik has a lot of company in the liar competition
Seems like a who’s who of titians, movers and shakers and very rich men
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It is pretty amazing, the # of prominent people. Don’t know if there’s truth to the Bill Gates rumor but that’s crazy.
There were a ton of people he interacted with thru the years as he was a con man. One of the biggest was the owner of The Limited and other mall stores who bowed out as soon as he figured out that Epstein was a bad guy, but he didn’t really warn a lot of people about how bad Epstein was.
I got the impression that Gates was in this group - was gaga over Epstein until he figured him out and then got the hell out of dodge. And again, didn’t warn others.
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Ok - so the STD gossip etc - no validity?
Like everything else, all these guys have to say is it’s untrue and that’s it is any true? Some true? All true? They’re not my allegations.
We know he was fired from the Microsoft board for behavior toward females. Ok - stepped down but essentially forced out.
Yup. That’s how it works when you’re rich and well connected. They’ll probably throw a couple lesser people to the wolves just to say that the victims got their justice. I honestly do not believe that the victims will ever get their justice, though. We know who the victims are, but we don’t yet know who victimized them - and I doubt we ever will. The victims know that they/their families won’t be protected if they name names themselves.
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I don’t know about the extra rumors, just that Gates was in the original group of celebs who were known to have done some social events with Epstein, but who ‘quietly’ distanced themselves from Epstein when it became more known about his wild parties. I don’t remember if that was before or after his first jail time in Florida but I think before.
I don’t think any of them are innocent as they should have made it known how sleezy he was so that others weren’t drawn into the web of evil. No one would have had to been the lead, but a tip to the National Enquirer could have lead to a story, that he had no college degree, that he’d been fired from Dalton School, etc etc.
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Why would a guy who has access to pretty much anything and anyone anywhere in the world ask Epstein to get him antibiotics? Not defending Gates, he is quite icky, but this has a scent of BS.
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I am not defending whatever Gates may or may not have done, but to be accurate: he was investigated for an alleged relationship with a single Microsoft employee, not multiple as you suggest. The board asked him to step down so the investigation could proceed independently, not because they had found any wrongdoing.
The sex trafficking and sexual abuse perpetrated by Epstein and his associates are reprehensible, and I hope everyone involved, regardless of political affiliation, is brought to justice. But in our pursuit of the truth, we should aim to be accurate and avoid misrepresenting facts.
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One of the most egregious things is that the victims names were not redacted like they were promised they would be.
I feel so awful for these poor women who continue to be treated so poorly
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Musk:
The Tesla CEO told Vanity Fair in 2019 that Epstein was “obviously a creep” and claimed that Epstein “tried repeatedly to get me to visit his island. I declined.” The emails between the two moguls come years after Epstein was convicted in 2008 of soliciting prostitution from a minor in Florida.
Also Musk:
In November 2012, Epstein sent Musk an email asking “how many people will you be for the heli to island”.
“Probably just Talulah and me. What day/night will be the wildest party on your island?” Musk replied, in an apparent reference to his former wife Talulah Riley.
Now I know two things can be true at once… but reconciling these two is a tough go.
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I shall disagree my friend. This is all old news now but when all this came out is when he got the boot. Yes he had an affair and that was the named reason but it was the allegations of making employees uncomfortable that did him in I believe. He’s done it at the foundation too.
Turns out he’s a slimy nerd, not just a nerd.
Nonetheless, it makes Epstein stiff believable - in my opinion.
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Apparently this is an affidavit and legit. Even as a threat (not something that was done for real) it’s disgusting. Add to this the age of 12 - I don’t think we’d seen that age before.
Was there an investigation as to the above? If so what did the investigation find? If not, why?
Afaik Epstein was registered as a sex offender in 2008 so anyone who initiated contact or willingly hung out with him after that date needs to be investigated for not speaking up or whether they were being blackmailed etc.
The scary part is that this is what was released and there’s way more.
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Why hasn’t Alex Acosta been put before a Congressional Committee to answer questions regarding Epstein’s sweetheart deal where he only had to sleep in jail?
Rhetorical question, I know. No one has an answer.
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Time to toss his book?
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The Attia story Is so much worse than the Variety article would indicate. Just look up his emails to JE and ask yourself if that’s normal doctor-patient conversation.
Also there’s this:
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This is the most transparent, concise article I’ve found.
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A number of Bari Weiss’s new hires are named in the files. As is her wife.
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The official decision is that all of the files have been released and there will be no charges. Case closed.
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