<p>shut it down for a year, come back after ? healing done woulld be the best for the kids.</p>
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<p>TLC really needs to change its name to TEC - The Exploitation Channel - The Mermaid Girl, The Hairy Faced Kids, Primordial Dwarves, The Oldest Conjoinded Twins, Half Ton Father…Jon and Kate are just more subjects in the side show…we’re too PC to have side shows at the state fair -we just watch it all on TV.</p>
<p>…“Jon clearly used poor judgement. Sometimes people do this when they are in a situation they see no way out of…”</p>
<p>Maybe Jon knew exactly what he was doing all along.<br>
Kate wouldn’t “listen” to him, totally dismissed him and this was his way of getting her attention. Not a mature way of handling issues but…I’m just saying. ;)</p>
<p>OK, this is tacky, but I saw this link. Are they saying the woman on left is the “before” Kate???</p>
<p>[Online</a> news, breaking news, feature stories and more - ABC News](<a href=“http://abcnews.go.com/]Online”>http://abcnews.go.com/)</p>
<p>The picture on the left was taken when the sextuplets were born. Kate has transformed quite a bit throughout the past five years. She went from brunette to blond, lost weight, had a tummy tuck (and who knows what else), constant trips to the beauty parlor for cut and highlights and this season she has added the tanning salon to her beauty regimin. Not bad for someone who has eight children I read somewhere that she is on the treadmill an hour or more a day. I think her nannies spend more time with the kids than she does - between the pampering and speaking engagements.</p>
<p>Yes, that’s her. It looks like a shot from season one. The babies were barely 1, I think. So I can’t blame her for still carrying a few pregnancy pounds or missing time in the sun and hair appts. </p>
<p>I’ve pretty much lurked on this thread recently. But I’ll chime in now. </p>
<p>I think the final straw (for me) was when J&K took the kids to see the new house. Kate’s insistence that the kids may never enter Mommy and Daddy’s bedroom was disgusting. That’s just plain, mean, arbitrary and irrational parenting. NEVER enter? Now c’mon. And then the way she nagged Jon to back her up on it was obnoxious. He conveyed the rule with some fatherly compassion. But it wasn’t good enough for Kate. She kept insisting the kids DON’T COME IN. </p>
<p>Last night’s show was sad. Just sad. I suspect Maddy and Cara are so helpful now because they understand their parents relationship. They want to be good in hopes that they can help “fix it.” At least that’s how my sister and I reacted when our parents had their in-house separations.</p>
<p>And that would be why she is being called out…she portrays herself as this ALL ABOUT THE KIDS/FAMILY MOM, and she is in actuality the vainest person that has ever existed.</p>
<p>Jon didn’t want the hairplugs, she wanted him to have it. There is an episode about it, he laughed at balding, and acknowledge that he lost his hair, but he was okay with it. She was all about him and having hair back.</p>
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When we were growing up, we were never (really) allowed in the living room. We had a family room and a finished basement, and my parents were adamant that the living room was their private place to have coffee or read without grubby handprints or other people’s things. They had five kids, one of whom had a terminal illness, and I am convinced that they needed a sanctuary of peace and order in their home. I didn’t see anything wrong with it then, and still don’t. It’s all what you’re comfortable with.</p>
<p>DougBetsy I missed that episode (bedroom). The thing I miss the most these days is the kids crawling up early in the morning with us and watching Blues Clues (Barney was not allowed in our family) under our covers. To this day Bullet and I can sing the Mail Time…MAil Time…Mail Time tune that they use to sing, and we do it every weekend when he is home and the mailman shows up! </p>
<p>Our door was always open, and when we needed our privacy we locked the door, trust me there were many times that they tried to open it and we would here MOMMY, DADDY the door is stuck. Daddy always magically fixed it. Our eldest is 19, the next is 17 and youngest is 15. Our DD (17) still every Saturday wakes up groggy around 9:30, climbs in our bed as I read the Sat newspaper and watch the news. I lovingly stroke her hair as she pets the dogs on the bed with us. That is a memory I cherish every weekend and will miss in 14 mos when she leaves us for college. Kate doesn’t get that, and I pity her. I think Jon now out of the house gets that he is losing chances to make memories and now he wraps his arms around those memories.</p>
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<p>Growing up, we never entered our parents’ room uninvited. I don’t remember being told the rule - I just knew the rule. But I think the difference is that we lived in *tiny *houses…two bedrooms, one bath, one living area, eat in kitchen…that was it. As a parent, I can totally understand my parents desire to carve out a few square feet of their own.</p>
<p>This is exactly why I would never do a show like this. My kids have never entered my room uninvited. They have always known it is “my room” and it was always the one place I could count of being neat and clean. Ditto for the formal living room. They had full run of the rest of the house. To each his own and each family makes rules that work for them.
Because Kate has chosen to put her family in this public spotlight, she has now opened her family up to criticism of their daily life down to the nth detail.</p>
<p>Yes, but KATE saw a paycheck and is not ticked that the paycheck had a personal price.</p>
<p>It was interesting to hear her last night when she said Jon was always more kind to strangers that were viewers than she was. He was thankful for them, now she has a book to promote she gets him, and digs at him that he wants them to go away. He on the other hand has decided that the cost was too high. I might be making the wrong assumption, but I think at the end of last season if she said no to 5 he would still have hope for their marriage, the fact that they are doing season 5 he realized that it was no longer about him or the kids and just about her.</p>
<p>My 22 and 25 year old still climb on our bed, just not IN it! Over spring break we had the 2 kids and the dog on the bed at 1:00AM while my daughter was reading from some funny website. I was clinging to the edge of the bed as my son is no small person, nor is the dog! I wouldn’t have given up that hour for anything and I pity Kate if she doesn’t get it.</p>
<p>I do understand having a closed door policy, but to say never to enter the bedroom, that I do not understand. Not letting children in a living room, that I understand. Usually the LR has breakables and nicer furniture; having kids not play in there makes sense to me. My LR as well as my parents were not off limits to kids, but it was not a room to play in.</p>
<p>D was horrified that the twins are still being dressed alike.</p>
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<p>When I’ve needed to change clothes and have found not only my kid but her friend in my room watching TV, I wish I had made the “no entry” rule myself! We live in a relatively small house (by suburban Texas standards) and we truly use every single room. The only reason that the living room is not used more is that it has no electronics; I love to read in there on a sunny afternoon, but not a lot of kid traffic.</p>
<p>yes I noticed the dressing alike and did not care for it. their clothes look really expensive. My D2 is a very insightful girl for 15, said the difference between Jon and Kates squabbles (Isometimes roll my eyes at my DH) is values. I think what they value is completely different, or they SAY they value the same thing but have a very different interpretation. As they have both said they are going in a different direction. I admire Jon for not wanting the fame etc… not necessarily his way of going about it.</p>
<p>Don’t fool yourself Kate gets many of those outfits free because she highlights the shop. My sister was on Calling all Cooks, she was smart and contacted Jen-Air, Kitchenaid, and Calphalon, they re-equipted her kitchen with high end appliances, including replacing her stove, knocking out cabinets to give her a Jen-air professional 6 burner oven (hers was a std 10 yr old stove) and Kitchen-Aid came in and put their equivalent to Sub-Zero. Calphalon gave her every pot and pan they owned plus utensils. She called them and said she would be on this show, they called the show, the show validated it and she had a new kitchen free of charge. Of course the show did video the kitchen appliances, but my sister didn’t ask for it. These companies were wise enough to realize their logo would be shown multiple times through the segment</p>
<p>I am sure that Kate did the same, she didn’t pay a dime. The Boys always wear during the season something that says GAP. The twins rae old enough now, that I am sure LIMITED TOO is willing to give a free wardrobe. I am just shocked that BUILD A BEAR and AMERICAN GIRL has not approached them for the girls and VANS hasn’t for the boys!</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Housewives of NYC just signed another year at around $30K each per show. Not bad work.</p>
<p>American girl is a stand up company would they do that?</p>
<p>bulletandpima, I remember an old episode where they went to American Girl. Surely some poster here saw this episode. The 2 older girls went and they ate at American Girl. There were high chairs for the dolls to sit in. Something tells me that they did not pay for the day since they filmed inside American Girl and showed their restaurant. That’s still chicken feed next to the free tummy tuck, and hair loss treatment. I’d put the cost up there with the day spas (must have plenty of freebies there when it gets filmed), but if not, they are paid nicely per episode. I just don’t understand how they resent certain publicity, when that is how they chose to make their living. Jon also chose because sitting back passively is also a choice.</p>