<p>So we have been out of town and skipping church. As an experiment tomorrow, maybe I will chug the entire goblet of communion wine. What do you think?</p>
<p>I think you may be asked to find a new church. If you can’t moderate your behavior in church, there may be no hope for you!!! :)</p>
<p>Thats the spirit of experimentation md mom. You are ready to go back to college!</p>
<p>MD Mom: If you go against the spirit of moderation, the consequences could be worse than mere demerits. “No wine for you!” (In my best soup nazi voice).</p>
<p>The mandatory four glasses of Manischewitz at Passover seder are usually enough to teach most Jewish kids moderation. </p>
<p>When my kids were small and they would try the whine, “but Joey has/does X,” my response was always, “Are you a lemming? If Joey went over a cliff, would you too?”</p>
<p>My kids tried the whine too, and never in moderation. But it never worked ;-). Actually, I grew up with Jewish friends. Manischewitz has a bad rap.</p>
<p>At a high school across town the parents are known to host large elaborate parties for kids. Rather than drinking at home being a learning tool in this case it seems like training the kids up in their ways of excess. </p>
<p>My sympathies on the whoopie pie issue mspearl. At least those are unlikely to be available in the cafeteria like the bottomless froyo, but then your D might go off campus for them and be at the corner convenience store late at night. I just hope she get a floor mate to walk with her for safety like we used to do heading up to Telegraph ave for a late night slice. ;)</p>
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now I’m going to be pondering how many college parents already track their students on occasion via GPS on their family cell phone plans. Or how many peruse shared bank account or credit card statements to see what their offspring have been doing, if they’re hanging out in bars, etc.[/quote}</p>
<p>This is the aspect where we have already been practicing moderation in our own actions! My son has a GPS system that WILL allow us to track him, but we NEVER have. I am not so nieve to think that he is where he says he is 100% of the time… however, there is a certian level of trusing him to make good decisions that we have to get used to as well. </p>
<p>As for the video camera…I am thinking a hidden one that sends a live feed to me could be really fun…for me that is! My son wears glasses. Perfect location…bwaahahahahah (evil laugh!)</p>
<p>This is such a great time in these kids life, I know that all of this talk about moderating our kids while in college seems excessive. And I know that this sounds really stupid, but I have often said to my DS “if you become famous, or want to possess a high office, anything stupid you do can and will come back to haunt you”. </p>
<p>Just look at what John Travolta is going through, or even the high publicity of the Cruise divorce. What a mess those people live in, and the microscope they have to deal with. </p>
<p>Though I must admit that Obama’s pot smoking college days do not really seem to have been an issue for him…LOL.</p>
<p>video cameras on kids - sounds immoderate to me… Wonder if privacy laws don’t apply to parents or do the kids have to be minors?</p>
<p>President does get a free pass while the opponent’s boarding school experiences 45 years ago are reviewed under a microscope using anecdotes. </p>
<p>Did Cruise or Travolta even attend college?</p>
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<p>hummm, something to think about. Since the camera would not be filming DS, and those around him, those pesky laws just MIGHT be an issue. Dang, PG…way to squash my evil plan.</p>
<p>Wait, in MD, as long as no audio, and in public places, it would be legal. </p>
<p>Note to self…figure out how to have sensor installed so hidden camera turns on and off when DS uses the main door of his dorm room, and only purchase camera with video. Also…check Alabama laws re: hidden cameras… LOL</p>
<p>Cruise allegedly tried to moderate everything about his current wife’s life. Definitely overkill. Aren’t his older kids around college age now? Gotta wonder how much an alleged “control freak” like him will want to monitor their behavior in college if they plan to attend. There weren’t any photos posted of Travolta with those masseuse guys, were there? But your college students would just say that something like that couldn’t happen to them. My cousin Demetri went to a college in the PNW where there were lots of photos taken all the time of passed out students at parties and after parties. Yes, of course some ended up on FB as they always do anymore! You’d think that would be enough to scare some students from overindulging in alcohol at college parties but apparently not. Or maybe they just got new photo victims all the time. And he wasn’t even living in a Greek frat house where you sometimes hear about that kind of thing happening. </p>
<p>Yes, vlines, it’s good to remind them that nearly everyone has a camera within reach these days. There’s a lot of stupid stuff you do in college that can come back to haunt you one day. And I’ve told my kids, “I’d better never see either of you on the Maury Povich show for testing purposes!” </p>
<p>mspearl - I feel like maybe I should give you some advice about the whoopie pie thing but not really sure what to say that could help out since she is 18 now and surely, she already knows it’s not the best thing for her health. What’s worse, I kind of want to know if it’s some kind of Amish family recipe and ask if they ship them out of state but that seems too tacky. I should just look for Amish whoopie pies with Google. Or maybe only the Mennonites would actually ship them? Wasn’t it a Mennonite restaurant?</p>
<p>Well, the pres gets a free pass for his behavior because it was moderate pot smoking, and it was at Hah-vahd. However his opponent’s behavior, although perhaps somewhat acceptable in the past, is today politically incorrect. Bullying, even in MODERATION, is unacceptable.</p>
<p>As for Cruise and Travolta. They went to the school of Scientology which to me sounds like an oxymoron. They’re both loony tunes (albeit talented ones). My apologies to Bugs, Elmo, et al.</p>
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<p>another note to self…add above quote to those already on the list to give to DS.</p>
<p>Woody:
[Amish</a> Whoopie Pies Recipe - Your Amish Recipe Resource](<a href=“http://www.amishrecipes.net/recipes.php/11/Amish-Whoopie-Pies/Dessert/]Amish”>http://www.amishrecipes.net/recipes.php/11/Amish-Whoopie-Pies/Dessert/)</p>
<p>I will PM you my address so you can send some to me. </p>
<p>You’re welcome.</p>
<p>mom0809- I think he was more clean cut at Harvard. His choom gang days seem to be more in Hawaii a bit at Occidental?</p>
<p>He supposedly thanked the drug dealer in the school year book.</p>
<p>[The</a> Choom Gang: President Obama’s pot-smoking high school days detailed in Maraniss book - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/the-choom-gang-president-obamas-pot-smoking-high-school-days-detailed-in-maraniss-book/2012/05/25/gJQAwFqEqU_blog.html]The”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/the-choom-gang-president-obamas-pot-smoking-high-school-days-detailed-in-maraniss-book/2012/05/25/gJQAwFqEqU_blog.html)</p>
<p>woody - hopefully demetri is not your cousin’s real name?</p>
<p>new plan-- enroll at school as a nontraditional student and take every class my kid does. This way we can check each other’s homework.</p>
<p>Woody yes it is an “amish” restaurant run by millionaire Mennonites. And their whoopie pies are amazing! I don’t blame my daughter. Personally, I prefer their Buttermilk Cookies: heaven.</p>
<p>We don’t have any laws against pastry…Yet. I really don’t think it is anyone’s business what my kids eat. If I want to feed them pastry on a daily basis, oh well.</p>
<p>My original point was more about the “freshman 15” rather than personal choice - unlimited pastry and froyo first term just because you can come back to bite you in the a** (quite literally, I’m afraid). Would a reminder be taken as implying that one’s child had or was at risk of having a big a**? That could set up a whole dynamic.</p>
<p>"one’s child had or was at risk of having a big a**? " we are getting a bit personal here!</p>
<p>I will fight immoderately to the death to have children with big whatevers!</p>