Ken Lay- No More

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<p>Ken Lay died of a heart attack at 64. I guess the whole thing really took a toll- as well it should have. Still sad, though.</p>

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<p>Gotta say it must have been a spectacular holiday weekend.</p>

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<p>Just a whimper for Ken. Nothing more.</p>

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<p>“Mr. Lay was found guilty on six counts of fraud and conspiracy and four counts of bank fraud.”</p>

<p>If you or I had been found guilty, would we be spending time at our “vacation home in Colorado?”</p>

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<p>What an ugly thread.</p>

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<p>He was awaiting sentencing. I am as horrified as anyone else about the Enron scandal, but I am still sad that a 64 year old man who was, at one time, the head of one of the leading companies in the company, has died a sudden death.</p>

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<p>I wonder if his parents are still living. If so, they are the ones that I really feel sorry for.</p>

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<p>Wait to see if there is a body. Sorry, it sounds morbid but this man had a heck of alot of connections and I wouldn’t put it past anyone in power now to bail out a “friend”.</p>

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<p>No crocodile tears from me. He was the worst kind of white-collar crook. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2002/02/enron_insure[/url]”>http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2002/02/enron_insure&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Ah motherjones. Isn’t that michael moore’s former employer?</p>

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<p>Conspiracy theories will abound. Wait and see. The whole circumstance of his death will just lead to speculation.</p>

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<p>An ugly thread? Yes, sad he died…</p>

<p>The IRONY is that he died at home in his Aspen vacation house, one of his many</p>

<p>While many of the people he hurt barely kept their little homes and some lost it all</p>

<p>Yeah, ulgy man ugly thread I guess</p>

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<p>I didn’t know Mr. Lay but I have a friend who did, who I coincidentally was talking to on the phone this morning. She lost her mid-level management job at Enron as well as much in the way of pension, benefits, and value of shares. I hadn’t heard about his death until she mentioned it while we were talking. She was truly saddened. She said that despite his involvement in the issues which caused the collapse of the company, he was a nice man who was very popular with employees at every level. </p>

<p>I don’t know if any of you were personally affected by Enron’s collapse but I think the lack of sadness at the death of another human being and the speculation as to the possibility that he isn’t actually dead is a shame.</p>

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<p>It’s funny how enraged some in this country are over people with brown skin coming in to pick our fruit and veggies in order to feed their families and a guy like Mr. Lay (and all those like him) can rape and pilage companies and retirement plans and live a life of king. </p>

<p>Which type of person does America the most harm? the less than minimum wage fruit picker or the guy who completely destroys your retirement funds? And we gotta build a wall … :slight_smile: gheese.</p>

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<p>Lack of Sadness, gosh, he wasn’t sad AT ALL about people losing everything</p>

<p>If he showed some remorse…but NOTHING Was his fault, he thought himslef blameless</p>

<p>Did he feel sorry for all the people that lost everything? Wonder how many people died because they lost medical care, from stress trying to deal with everything…I am sure many people, of the thousands and thousands that Enron hurt, who got sick from what Ken Lay did to them</p>

<p>I am sad when anyone dies, but to put any extra effort into feeling sorry for his family for a man that hurts tens of thousands of people, sorry</p>

<p>And even if I wasn’t PERSONALLY, DIRECTY effected, does that matter?</p>

<p>If a grandma lose her home because of that man, I feel bad for her, his family, eh</p>

<p>Call it harsh, but a person needs to earn respect and care</p>

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<p>Sure. I predict at least these three:</p>

<ol>
<li> He was murdered</li>
<li> Suicide</li>
<li> Really not dead but in hiding.</li>
</ol>

<h1>1 will have many versions: murdered by Enron shareholders, mudered by his wife, etc.</h1>

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<p>cgm, my point was simply that someone who WAS directly affected still was able to express sadness at his death. None of us knows whether or not he felt remorse, including you. No one is condoning what he did. He was wrong, he committed crimes, he was tried and convicted, and was awaiting sentencing. It’s not as though he got away with it. No matter. Whatever his crimes, I don’t think any of them deserved the death penalty.</p>

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<p>I’ve always felt that Lay was guilty of bad management via poorly-placed trust. I don’t think he’s the villain he’s been made out to be. There were villains, though. I think it’s very sad, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he found a way to commit a surreptitious suicide. Ha Ha. Yuk it up. If there is a hell, Fastow will be at its red-hot core.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005336[/url]”>http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005336&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/27/news/newsmakers/lay/[/url]”>http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/27/news/newsmakers/lay/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://web.dailycamera.com/news/worldnation/214enron.html[/url]”>http://web.dailycamera.com/news/worldnation/214enron.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>driver, I think you’re right. It seems that most who are closely involved in the surrounding fallout from Enron’s collapse agree with that. You’re also right about there being many villains, including Lou Pi, who doesn’t seem to get nearly the amount of negative press that one would think he deserves. He, Fastow, and Skilling (as well as many of the traders) seem far more culpable in all of this than Lay.</p>

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<p>Corporate greed is a virus in this country. Ken Lay and his minions are representative of this illness. </p>

<p>Did I wish him harm? No. Am I weeping in sadness about his demise? No.</p>