<p>Here is a list of schools that should be in the list in post #1, but got missed in cut and paste:</p>
<p>CUNY Bernard M Baruch College
CUNY Hunter College
Grove City College
New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
SUNY at Albany
SUNY at Binghamton
SUNY College at Oneonta
Western Washington University</p>
<p>Most of that list IS public universities.</p>
<p>Yes, many are public universities, but ones for which out of state cost is significantly lower than the $50,000 to $60,000 that many people normally expect to see at out of state public universities.</p>
<p>The same goes for the private universities on the list – they cost substantially less than the $50,000 to $60,000 that many people normally expect to see at private universities.</p>
<p>Also, people tend to be much less aware of out of state public school than their in state public schools. The same goes for private schools that are not famous (HYPSM etc.) or within the general region that they live.</p>
<p>My D has had several teachers who attended Grove City. It has a good reputation in western PA, but is very conservatively Christian. They do not accept federal funds.</p>
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It’s also harder for people to gauge schools in different regions with similar names (e.g. there is a big difference between University of Buffalo and Buffalo State College, even though both are part of the SUNY system, and both have important roles to fill. If I’m not from Buffalo, how do I discern where these schools both stand? collegeboard stats only go so far. CC helps people to get a handle on how these schools differ and whether they are relevant to our kid or not.</p>
<p>Just out of the price range the OP gave in post #1 (total cost of attendance under $35k) Elon will be $38,460 for tuition/room/board next year (2012-13). CR & Math 25th percentile both 560. It’s private, has a gorgeous campus, 13:1 student:faculty ratio. It’s become very popular with the New England/Mid Atlantic crowd, because it’s $10k - $15k than comparable schools in the Northeast.</p>
<p>BTW - looking at post #1 and post #43 again - are there actually any publics charging $50 - $60k out of state? I think the most I’ve seen is mid-upper 30’s.</p>
<p>BYU Provo for $12K a year (tuition, room and board) is a bargain, but is not everybody’s cup of tea.</p>
<p>I’m all for the state schools and usually they are bargains, especially for those in-state. But the title of this thread is “Less expensive (list price) less obvious…” Anyone that lives in New York or in the states surrounding NY know that the SUNY’s are well priced just as we Pennsylvanians and those in our neighboring states know that these schools [Welcome</a> to the PA State System of Higher Education](<a href=“http://www.passhe.edu/Pages/default.aspx]Welcome”>Home | PA State System of Higher Education) are a deal and are pretty good schools. Is everybody now going to name their state schools?</p>
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<p>A reference to [D&C</a> 89:9](<a href=“http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89.1-9?lang=eng]D&C”>Doctrine and Covenants 89)?</p>
<p>[BYU’s</a> cost of attendance](<a href=“http://saas.byu.edu/ebrochure/BYU_Financial_Aid_and_Scholarships_Guide/Step_1__Count_the_Cost/Cost_of_Attendance.php]BYU’s”>http://saas.byu.edu/ebrochure/BYU_Financial_Aid_and_Scholarships_Guide/Step_1__Count_the_Cost/Cost_of_Attendance.php) for 2011-2012 undergraduates is $16,880 for LDS members, $21,440 for non-LDS members.</p>
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<p>No. The schools under discussion need to be both relatively inexpensive (for out-of-state students if they are state schools) and have at least some chance of being a reasonable academic match for a moderately high to high achieving student (i.e. courses taught at a level that would interest and challenge such a student).</p>
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<p><a href=“http://students.berkeley.edu/finaid/home/cost.htm[/url]”>http://students.berkeley.edu/finaid/home/cost.htm</a>
<a href=“http://www.finaid.umich.edu/TopNav/AboutUMFinancialAid/CostofAttendance.aspx[/url]”>http://www.finaid.umich.edu/TopNav/AboutUMFinancialAid/CostofAttendance.aspx</a>
<a href=“http://www.virginia.edu/Facts/Glance_Tuition.html[/url]”>http://www.virginia.edu/Facts/Glance_Tuition.html</a>
<a href=“http://finaid.utexas.edu/costs/110undergradcosts.html[/url]”>http://finaid.utexas.edu/costs/110undergradcosts.html</a></p>
<p>The University of Alabama offers free tuition to anyone who gets a 32 on the ACT. I’m not sure what the equivalent SAT score is, but I definitely know it’s worth checking out.</p>
<p>Deep Springs College. </p>
<p>Frankly, I’m surprised that wasn’t the first college on the list. Full ride and they get the top applicants in the nation. Students who graduate typically go to the nation’s top universities, recently, Harvard, University of Chicago, Yale Brown, Columbia, Oxford, UC Berkeley, Cornell, and Stanford. You get either an associates degree after two years or transfer to another university to finish your studies. It’s all-male however it is soon to be coeducational. Selectivity: Extremely competitive. 100-200 applicants a year for around 20 spots and the class size is 10-15 students. [Deep</a> Springs College](<a href=“http://www.deepsprings.edu/home]Deep”>http://www.deepsprings.edu/home)</p>
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<p>Good one, ucbalumnus!</p>
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<p>My $12,000 cost figure was for tuition, room and board. I figure that the other costs–books, transportation, personal expenses–would be similar from school to school. [$2300 for transportation? What are they driving there? :eek:]</p>
<p>Deep Springs didn’t show in the search because I used a search for bachelor’s degree granting schools.</p>
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<p>$12,000 for tuition + room + board at BYU is with the LDS member tuition. For non-LDS members, tuition + room + board is a bit over $16,000. For transportation, they may be assuming air travel to visit family during holidays and vacation periods.</p>
<p>But how are these schools “hidden” if they have over 10,000 students? I guess your intent is a fun thread but it seems that if someone is involved in a college search these types of threads don’t make a lot of sense. That is, the parameters of low cost and a reasonable SAT score is awfully broad.</p>
<p>Appalachian State has 17,000 students, not hidden. I guess most of the schools on the East side of the country that are not old and exclusive could be considered “hidden” from people on the West side and vice versa, but they’re really only unknown until you start reading this forum for a couple of weeks.</p>
<p>kathiep–I think by hidden he means not nationally known. Many of the schools on this list I have never heard of, just like I could give you a list of fantastic schools in our area that you have never heard of. One example here would be Truman. I never heard of the school before coming here, it is now on our list of places to look at. In the world outside of CC, most people are unfamiliar with schools outside of their general region unless they have some kind of national draw, HYP type schools or big sports schools.</p>
<p>For Appalachian State-they only have 11% of their students from out of state. That is hidden.</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying Steve, but my point is that they are hidden because of geography. All NC colleges have a maximum amount of OOS students allowed. UNC has branches all over the State - UNC Wilmington, UNC Ashville, etc. All of them are going to have a small percentage of OOS students.</p>
<p>Heck, most State U’s have less then 20% of their students from OOS. Most of our very affordable this tier colleges [Welcome</a> to the PA State System of Higher Education](<a href=“http://www.passhe.edu/Pages/default.aspx]Welcome”>Home | PA State System of Higher Education) have more like 8% OOS and we don’t even limit the number allowed from OOS.</p>
<p>BTW, my cousin teaches at Truman - great college!</p>
<p>^^^The UNC system only allows a max of 18% oos students at each campus. So using that theory all UNC system schools are somewhat hidden gems.
NC State is on the list. Founded in NC’s state capital city of Raleigh as a land grant sch. in 1887, it is the largest university in NC with over 33,000 students. Hard to believe it’s “hidden” but I guess it’s possible.</p>
<p>cross-posted with kathiep</p>
<p>The point of this thread is to make people aware of these schools that have relatively low out of state tuition costs though. The assumption for most people is that if you want to go to an out of state school, especially an out of state STATE school is that you are going to pay near private school costs. People may very well be “aware” of the school but not realize that the OOS costs are so low.</p>