Low GPA Asian Male with Ivy+ or bust mentality. PLZ chance me (junior) [DE resident, 3.82 GPA, 1400 SAT, neuroscience or molecular biology]

Ok so med school of some type of grad school. You have time to decide on the specifics. You will be able to achieve your goals by attending UDel.

Lehigh is great but will be expensive.

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Your SAT result was very good. However, you generally didn’t choose colleges for your list at which the student profile comports with your score.

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Thank you for that. I will most definitely find more schools. After I am done reply to the thread I am going to do ACT bc I have a test in Feb.

Expensive + Grad school is an issue I have had for a minute. I like lehigh a lot but unless merit comes in Idk about going there.

No, they do not assure notification earlier than the usual regular decision notification time frame.

As a school suggestion based on your academic interests and profile, look into the University of Rochester.

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I think you indicated that your parents will pay for a top school, or will pay for a safety/match school if it costs the same as UDel. Please note that a match school will likely come in at a higher price than UDel.

Is this correct?

That is correct

Thank you for responding.

You would need safety schools. Schools such as Lehigh will be too expensive.

If you are planning to apply to UCLA and UCB, then you need to calculate your 3 UC GPA’s: Unweighted, Capped Weighted and Fully weighted. Since you are OOS only AP/IB or UC transferable DE courses taken the summer after 9th to the summer prior to 12th are considered in the UC GPA calculation. OOS HS designated “honors” classes are not weighted in the calculation.

Here is the Calculator: GPA Calculator for the University of California – RogerHub

UCLA and UCB emphasize the unweighted and fully weighted in their application review.

Also note since they are test blind, so your SAT score will not be used for admissions or scholarship consideration, only for course placement.

Here are the overall OOS admit rates for each campus:

UCB: 7.8%
UCLA: 8.6%

You are a competitive applicant unfortunately so are the many thousand of students that apply to these schools each year. Good luck.

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What would such a school be? I was thinking UMD but that still cost nearly 60K.

UMD is a reach, imo

It is also my opinion that you will not beat UDel in terms of cost and quality, if looking for safety schools.

You can try SUNY Binghamton. They may come close if they give you some merit 
only because their base price isn’t as high as others.

You really need true safety schools in order to possibly (there is no guarantee) come close to the cost of UDel.

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Here is a website for the OP to review:

Apparently, if the OP would like to major in something not offered at a Delaware university, he may be able to attend many public universities in Southern states at in-state tuition rates. Some of these may fall into the “safety” category for him.

Honestly, under the circumstances, U Delaware is a fantastic school for you. Great value, you’d be able to do plenty of research there, and position yourself well for applying to PhD programs, or med school.

I totally understand your parents’ rationale. They want value for their money. They believe that it’s worth more only to pay for a top “name” school because they believe that the name on the diploma might help you in your future endeavors; otherwise, U Del is fine. If what you want is med school, there is some truth to that, but if you wind up going on for a PhD in science, you’d be fine coming out of U Del. As for med school, there is a problem. There is no in-state med school for Delaware. There are 20 seats reserved at Jefferson, and 5 at PCOM. So you’d be applying as OOS everywhere else, and to private med schools. Of course, if you decide on med school AND a PhD (MD/PhD programs), then you’d likely have many more options. If you decide that you want only med school, you could move to a state where you want to go to the state public school, work there and establish residency, and apply there as in-state. Texas can be an attractive option for this since it has many public med schools and very low in-state tuition.

Meanwhile, without a very high SAT/ACT, you have less of a chance of getting into a T20, and even with a top score, you still have only a small chance. The private schools that are likely to give you massive merit money probably still won’t meet your price for U Del, and they will likely be 3rd tier LACs, not gonna have the research opportunities you want. After all, Dupont money funds a lot of academic research in Delaware!

Another helpful datapoint would be your approximate class percentile. I know that your class doesn’t rank, but they have to give schools some idea of what decile your GPA places you, in your class. If you’re top 5th% from a good high school, that’s probably good enough, and if you can get your SAT up to over 1500, an ACT of 34 or above, that’s probably good enough, too - it’s not that valedictorian and 1600 guarantee you anything. What looks most interesting about your application is your research; if you get a paper published in an important journal, or place very highly in a top famous science competition before you submit applications, that would help.

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As something to consider, Amherst was the first school in the nation to establish a neuroscience major. If you would like a high reach school that would be worth its expense (https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliesportelli/2017/04/26/10-expensive-colleges-worth-every-penny-2017/amp/), well, there you go.

Just curious how you’re planning on publishing a solo paper as a high schooler? Is it related to neuroscience? I’ve never seen that before, unless you’re talking about a journal that’s specifically for high schoolers.

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Regarding the UCs, UCSD may offer the strongest biological sciences programs.

I doubt you will get any merit from there. If you need merit, you need to apply to safeties, and even then, most will still be more expensive than UD.

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Bing - earlier was mentioned - shows up on various neuro rankings. Great merit. Pitt, Va Tech. Lafayette as a less competitive stud school.

Lehigh not a match but frankly you’d be better suited at a tier 3 school like a Juniata or Wooster or Kalamazoo - just as random names. I didn’t check on the major.

They throw money at you. They do well in PhD placement. You get closer faculty relations. And most importantly, you’re above average vs someone who is not a campus standout.

The kids at CWRU, as an example, many are just as accomplished as those on your initial list.

I’d rather be where I can compete academically vs having little chance of standing out.

Your parents are prestige focused. They should be more about getting to the finish line.

You should be about finding the environment where you’d be comfortable four years.

Is it Penn or Princeton or CWRU - I don’t know? But there are many like schools too.

Good luck

You need to look at safeties if you want merit. This means looking at schools that are not as well known as UDel and where your stats put you at the top.

I am not sure why you would want to do that, given you can attend UDel
which is a great school.

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