<p>I am a BC grad and almost all of my California friends chose BC over USC because they wanted to “try something different.” I was a tour guide last year and we were very excited the day that Ms. Shriver came in with Katherine. It is a shame to lose her, but if the admissions committee didn’t think she could do the work, or thrive at BC, I am sure they had a reason.</p>
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<p>I was given the Maria Shriver book in audio form. I thought it was quite wonderful! If I were going to give it away, I’d give it in audio form–not only because Maria Shriver reads it, but the audio book will probably get finished (10 minute car ride after car ride at a time).</p>
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<p>The fact that they waitlisted her demonstrates that she could do the work and thrive at BC. Maybe it was simply yeild protection on BC’s part and they felt if they accepted her, that she would not attend, so they waitlisted her. If she pursued the waitlist and was admitted, people would have been squawking about she was only accepted because of her parents or their connections.</p>
<p>Personally, like others have stated it is not a fate worse than death to attend USC. I guess that is one of the down sides of having famous parents, no matter what happens it’s grist for the mill and it is a no win situation.</p>
<p>I know a kid this year who was rejected by Northeastern and accepted by Boston College, off the wait list. You just never know.</p>
<p>The Earl of Bedpan- eh Coureur? Brings new meaning to the phrase “sitting on the throne” :D</p>
<p>He took the bar four times. No one “passed him” on that one.</p>
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<p>And you know this how???</p>
<p>I have a friend who was at Brown when JFK, Jr. was there and they shared a few classes. My friend is now a professor at a HYPS institution and he says that he was surprised at how bright and nice JFK, Jr. was - he expected a spoiled, self-centered, dolt who got into Brown solely by virtue of his name (ala W at Yale and LOTS of kids at Brown and other Ivies) but was proven wrong.</p>
<p>John John was known as a handsome, nice, loyal guy. But not the brightest bulb for sure. Remember the circumstances of his death? He flew his plane at night in bad weather, but was not instrument rated!!! Without the specialized training, pilots are unable to fly safely if they don’t have the ground as a visual reference. His in-laws filed a suit against his estate for this tragic bad judgment. Don’t know the outcome, though, but they lost two daghters in that crash.</p>
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And you know Dubya track record and brightness at Yale how?
I don’t care about your friend.
John Jr.'s friends in academia was on KQED and BBC at some point or another after his death and I don’t recall they use the word “bright” to describe him. “nice” yes, “bright” no.</p>
<p>^I met JFK, Jr. several times (no, I won’t say, he was a friend of mine a la Lloyd Bentsen) but, yes, he was a bright young man by almost any definition.</p>
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<p>Actually, W’s lack of academic prowess before, during, and after Yale is well documented - the old “Gentlemen’s C”, wouldn’t get into Yale or Harvard Business School (which, at the time was begging for students believe it or not) without Daddy’s connections. He seems quite proud of it, making reference to his poor academic record on many occasions (anti-intellectualism is a point of pride in our society!!)</p>
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Didn’t he go to Andover, which at the time sent half of the student body to Yale?
I told people I’m neither bright nor smart all the time. Does it mean I believe what I said? Absolutely not.
A lot of people appear to be bright, until you see them struggle with a simple problem. I believe it’s an art you can master.</p>
<p>JFK Jr. was supervised at the D.A.'s office for awhile by a very close friend of mine, whom reported that the lad was no dummy.</p>
<p>middsmith, you never answered how you know that John Jr. barely graduated from Brown (your words). Based on what?
You only said his friends in a radio interview didn’t use “bright” to describe him. So, by omitting using “bright,” that implies he wasn’t? </p>
<p>Let me see if I get your line of reasoning…so, someone could be describing my daughter and say conceivably: “She is easygoing, very giving, a leader, driven, well rounded.” They may never bother to say how bright she is and discuss her academic achievements (which are many). Would one then conclude that she is NOT bright and further, would one then conclude that she “barely graduated Brown”? </p>
<p>Further, what do you mean by “I mean, it’s Brown”? </p>
<p>I suppose if it were Amherst, different story?</p>
<p>The important point to this story, that I haven’t seen anyone mention, is that a priviliged, and/or developmental candidate will get accepted anywhere. Obviously, not so.</p>
<p>soozievt, it is like someone graduating at the top or bottom of their medical class. Nobody ever knows.</p>
<p>Here’s why:
- he was held back one year at Andover.<br>
- failed the bar exam several times.<br>
- graduated from Brown without distinction (apparently you only need 3.3 from Brown. their record of taking classes Pass/Not Pass, no D given, can drop a class anytime without it showing up on your transcript. I’d imagine almost everyone graduate with some kind of distinction. that’s “it’s Brown” from me)
- his friends went on the record and did not mention bright or smart or anything make believe that he’s smart. Why are they beating around the bush?</p>
<p>Does middsmith suffer from JFK envy? Maybe it makes middsmith feel better to project negative thoughts on dead people he never met.</p>
<p>What we’re all missing here in praising BC’s integrity is that when the president heard about Shriver saying this, he called up the dean of admissions and said, “You did WHAT??!!!?”</p>
<p>(to be clear, this being the internet and all: The above is intended as a joke, and not as a truthful representation of any conversation between Boston College officials based on the poster’s personal knowledge. But it could have happened.)</p>
<p>" You did WHAT?" …LOLLOLLOLOL</p>
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You’re right. I have a case of JFK envy.</p>