Match me: willing to go anywhere in US [IL resident, 3.5 unweighted gpa, TO]

IL male public high school, not first gen, not an athlete, no budget/cost restraints, major ideas include economics, automotive engineering, psychology, entrepreneurship.

3.7 GPA (weighted out of 4.0)
3.5 GPA unweighted
3 AP classes (scored 4)
Not submitting test scores

Exceed class requirements for enrollment (i.e., 4 years of English, 4 years of Science, 4 years of World Languages, 4 years of math (completed Calculus),etc

Extracurriculars
4 years of work experience, hobby auto mechanic/car enthusiast, scuba diver, volunteer, etc

Strong Essays/LORs

Initially looking at Elon, University of Illinois,

Hoping for small to mid-size but will go big if needed. Hopingh for non-urban setting. Jesuit okay. Not politically leaning too extreme either way. Any ideas?

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You say weighted here but unweighted in the thread title. If weighted, what is the unweighted GPA?

Budget?

What is your unweighted GPA? Give yourself a 4 for an A, 3 for a B, 2 for a C, etc.

If you think you want engineering (especially automotive), your list may look different. While at 17, you needn’t know what to major in, engineering is one of those, if it’s on the list, best to start there and pivot out. It’s very difficult to pivot in.

Get us the unweighted GPA please. So no bonus points for Honors and AP.

Thanks

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OP wrote:

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Oops..missed that…thanx

This automotive-focused web site has a list of college suggestions:

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Realistically, a 3.7 (even unweighted) - UIUC won’t happen - and on the top 10 auto engineering list - maybe Iuipui could happen and perhaps Pomona.

All that said, working in the industry, there’s tons of schools that put out automotive engineerings - from a Bama to MTSU to Tennessee Tech - to - really most any ABET accredited MechE program - such as Western Michigan, WVU, and really anywhere. Elon for engineering - ehhhh.

Let’s here more - but honestly, OP can get into lots of schools - but some may require a test - or a test for merit $$.

As they’re looking for smaller schools, here’s a list to look at:

The University of Alabama in Huntsville Huntsville Alabama
Arkansas Tech University Russellville Arkansas
University of the Pacific Stockton California
University of Hartford West Hartford Connecticut
University of New Haven West Haven Connecticut
Quinnipiac University Hamden Connecticut
Florida Institute of Technology Melbourne Florida
Bradley University Peoria Illinois
Illinois Institute of Technology Chicago Illinois
Wentworth Institute of Technology Boston Massachusetts
Kettering University Flint Michigan
Michigan Technological University Houghton Michigan
Missouri University of Science and Technology Rolla Missouri
University of New Hampshire Durham New Hampshire
New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology Socorro New Mexico
Manhattan University Riverdale New York
University of Dayton Dayton Ohio
Shippensburg University Shippensburg Pennsylvania
Slippery Rock University Slippery Rock Pennsylvania
York College of Pennsylvania York Pennsylvania
South Dakota School of Mines and Technology Rapid City South Dakota
University of Tennessee at Chattanooga Chattanooga Tennessee
University of Tennessee at Martin Martin Tennessee
Tennessee Technological University Cookeville Tennessee
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What is this?

IUPUI - Indiana U Purdue U Indianapolis

That being said, the schools have split this past year, so it’s just PUI now for Motorsports Indy. It’s not on the “small school” list above due to size and that the student won’t get in.

Indiana University–Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI )[a] was a joint campus[8] of Indiana University and Purdue University in Indianapolis, Indiana, United States, from 1969 to 2024, offering undergraduate, graduate, and professional degrees from both universities. In 2024, IUPUI was split into two separate campuses, namely Indiana University Indianapolis and Purdue University in Indianapolis.

Did you take SAT or ACT? Whether to apply test optional should depend on how your score compares to the college’s score range.

I want to highlight this for OP as he’s working on his list. You do NOT need to major in automotive engineering to work in the auto industry. Any ABET-accredited mechanical engineering degree will prepare you for this career path. If that idea worries you, dig into the curriculums and college outcomes for a particular college.

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Great point - and there are no ABET accredited automotive engineering programs. It’s not even a category in ABET. So unless it’s a MechE with electives, you’d be pigeonholing yourself - well you would be anyway.

There are 3 ABET accredited Automotive Engineering Tech programs in the US - Ferris State, Indiana State, and Minnesota State Mankato.

But OP wants small (not Clemson) and isn’t going to get into a Clemson or UIUC regardless.

Take a look at Parkland College in Champaign. They have the Parkland Pathways program with Illinois. He could spend the first two years at Parkland and then transfer to Illinois. As an added bonus, students in this program are allowed to live on campus at Illinois, in the dorms or in apartments. There are also apartments near Parkland, but then they’d be missing out on the on campus experience at Illinois.

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Since OP has no cost constraints and is interested in such a wide range of majors, I think he should seek out schools where he has flexibility in deciding on a major; those are often private schools. As there is no sense in applying anywhere that doesn’t offer ABET-accredited engineering, that shortens the list of possibilities.

I’d say Case Western (might get in ED), but it is urban. University of Dayton and Marquette come to mind as possible safeties.

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The one that jumped out at me on this list was Kettering, as it’s small but still has great ties to the auto industry, it’s attainable admissions-wise, and it has MechE, Management, and Industrial Engineering, which has both business and engineering components and might be a really nice, flexible major for your interests. They also emphasize co-op education, which might appeal. It may be more urban than you want, though.

TBH I’m not getting a clear sense of what appeals to you academically. The fact that you enjoy working on cars, and perhaps are very good at it, doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll like studying engineering. Do you have a particular interest in the auto industry, even outside of hands-on work with cars, or not necessarily?

What language have you studied, and are you interested in studying abroad? Several schools that have dual-degree programs in foreign language and engineering/business, get students into great auto-industry internships and careers in their target countries. (Especially in Germany and Japan, although I realize it’s unlikely that either of these was the language you studied in high school.) U of Rhode Island (smaller flagship in a lovely coastal location, not urban - has some good SCUBA opportunities too) has both International Engineering and International Business. (And again, Industrial Engineering is an option within International Engineering - this major could give you a lot of flexibility to fine-tune what you want to do across engineering and business, as you gain experience.) Would something like that interest you? (URI has a top-notch Ocean Engineering major too, if that’s of any interest.)

Speaking of ocean-oriented stuff, is your mechanical bent specific only to cars, or might it extend to boats also? A student with strong hands-on mechanical aptitude could have a great experience at one of the Maritime Academies. (Participation in the Corps is optional at many, and there’s no service obligation.) For example, Maine Maritime has multiple options for engineering, engineering tech, and business, and tons of hands-on experience, summer training cruises, etc. Same with Cal Maritime, which has just become part of Cal Poly SLO and would be a way in to a SLO degree. (The main SLO campus wouldn’t be attainable with your stats, but the Maritime campus could.)

Speaking of Maine, the UMaine flagship can be a great bargain for OOS students because of their flagship match program, and their strong engineering school has both MechE and MechE Tech (the tech major could be a good option in case you find MechE too theoretical and not hands-on enough for your interests)… plus all of the usual non-engineering majors are available - business, psych, etc. Only about 9K undergrads at UMaine.

But maybe you can give some feedback on your interests, and whether you’re especially seeking a career in the automotive industry, or whether you just like hands-on mechanical things generally… and how your interest in psych figures in. If you’re thinking of psych in terms of the “human factors” aspect of engineering, some Industrial Engineering programs have this specialization.

In that vein, maybe Michigan Tech would be worth a look. Smaller (under 6K undergrads), rural (Upper Peninsula), and their Psychology & Human Factors major could be a great crossover between your psych and technical interests. They also have a traditional psych major, and a full range of engineering and business majors, including MechE, MechE Technology, and an Entrepreneurship concentration within the Management major. Michigan Tech is a little reachy for your stats, but not unreasonably so, and they have a “test flexible” option where you can submit AP scores in lieu of SAT/ACT, which might be more advantageous for you than going fully test-optional (although they do have a TO option also).

P.S. If you like the Human Factors idea, there are a few other undergrad programs in this area (although the majority of programs in this specialty are grad programs). Again querying whether your mechanical interests flex, this time toward aerospace… Embry-Riddle has this too, both in FL and in AZ: Bachelor's Degree in Human Factors Psychology

Overall, I agree with ColdWombat’s encouragement to seek out schools that have multiple majors of interest and that don’t make it difficult to explore/change major pathways.

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But note that engineering majors require getting started in the prerequisite courses early to avoid closing off the possibility of doing them, even at schools which do not have capacity limitations on those majors.

Capacity limitations on engineering majors are most likely to be found at larger schools of relatively high admission selectivity that enroll their engineering majors to capacity. This tends to describe popular state flagships the most. Very wealthy (typically among the most selective) private schools can afford to maintain unused reserve capacity to allow changing majors without difficulty, while less selective schools usually do not have so many students able and willing to handle the rigor of engineering majors that they hit capacity.

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Yes, I think the point was already made up-thread that it’s best to start out in engineering if the desire is to keep that door open, but it’s good to reiterate that point and elaborate on the multiple reasons why that’s the case.

For a student who might pivot to business, Industrial/Systems Engineering could potentially be a good place to start. That would keep the student on track in terms of core engineering requirements, so switching into MechE wouldn’t be as difficult as from a non-engineering major (though as you said, how impacted different majors are may vary depending on the school), but IE is also more business/econ adjacent, so it can offer a good middle ground to be able to pivot either way. Depends on the program, though; it’s good to look at 4-year plans for all majors of interest, to determine the extent of overlap and where/when they diverge.

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My son and I looked at a ton of engineering roadmaps as he was undecided in high school considering data science or other non-engineering STEM major. Calculus and physics were by far the most important prerequisites to take freshman year if you wanted to keep engineering on the table with chemistry a close runner up. If you take those classes freshman year, you’ll most likely be able to graduate in 4 years with any flavor of engineering. He proved it by switching from mechanical to chemical to electrical by mid sophomore year and still graduated in 4 years.

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Another aspect to look at is clubs/teams, particularly Formula SAE. As just one case in point, here’s the Insta for Michigan Tech’s team: https://www.instagram.com/mtuformula/?hl=en There are a number of members here who are very knowledgeable about these programs.

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