<p>[McCain</a> Backer Hagee Said Hitler Was Fulfilling God’s Will (AUDIO) - Politics on The Huffington Post](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>McCain Backer Hagee Said Hitler Was Fulfilling God's Will (AUDIO) | HuffPost Latest News)</p>
<p>Meanwhile, McCain messes up his Iran facts again:</p>
<p>[McCain</a> Confronted With New Iran Gaffe, Gets Facts Wrong Again (VIDEO) - Politics on The Huffington Post](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>McCain Confronted With New Iran Gaffe, Gets Facts Wrong Again (VIDEO) | HuffPost Latest News)</p>
<p>Ah, nice to have foreign policy expertise. Oh well, at least he understands the economy…oh, wait a minute, didn’t he say that…oh, never mind. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>That’s like saying Gates is in charge of US foreign policy because he is SOD. Ahmadinejad is the leader of Iran, he makes the foreign policy decisions whether it is in his realm or not…One only needs to take a class on Iranian history (which I’m doing now) to realize this. </p>
<p>While we’re talking about gaffes, maybe we can explain why Obama thinks there’s 58 states??</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - Obama Claims He’s Visited 57 States](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws)</p>
<p>You can bet if McCain did this it would be because he’s too old, can’t remember things.</p>
<p>And only mini would cite the huffington post as if it had any credibility. Maybe I should cite other “credible” sites like freerepublic? Says right here’s he’s a muslim! [Keyword:</a> obamatruthfile](<a href=“Keyword: obamatruthfile”>Keyword: obamatruthfile)</p>
<p>wrong again laxattack - I have cited HuffPost several times, and check on it several times a day, along with many other websites. But probably the one I find that is most fair and well-balanced is Real Clear Politics, which I’ve seen other CCers link to.</p>
<p>“That’s like saying Gates is in charge of US foreign policy because he is SOD. Ahmadinejad is the leader of Iran, he makes the foreign policy decisions whether it is in his realm or not…One only needs to take a class on Iranian history (which I’m doing now) to realize this.”</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad makes NO significant foreign policy decisions - it’s just not the way it works. (Take it from me - not because of my politics which you have every right to despise - but because I worked for YOUR government in Iran - this is the sort of thing I know. I would be the one TEACHING your class on Iranian history.)</p>
<p>Hamas has endorsed Obama.</p>
<p>A fair political tempest - in a teapot. ;)</p>
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<p>This is a non-issue, as much as Obamas obfuscators would like to have it become one. If McCain had been a parishioner, as Barack and family were, then maybe it rises to this level. He wasn’t…it doesn’t.</p>
<p>Not really dadx. It is a speech full of anti-Semitic and historically inaccurate remarks.</p>
<p>Since Obama and McCain will be competing for the Jewish vote, Jews would like those comments explained.</p>
<p>Hagee has a long history of “unusual” comments about Israel. If McCain is endorsing him, does he have the same views? </p>
<p>Hitler fulfilling God’s will? </p>
<p>He apologized to the Catholics about his offensive comment to them. Let’s hear another apology, or McCain acknowledging he disagrees.</p>
<p>If he wants Jewish votes, I believe McCain must disconnect vehemently from Hagee’s extreme and disgusting published views about Hitler, Jewish people and his bizarre understanding of the meaning of the modern State of Israel.</p>
<p>McCain should…disavow, dissociate, rebuke, reject…Hagee. But he won’t.</p>
<p>He’s too reluctant to lose some of the Conservative base to his right that embraces Hagee and supports McCain with a clothespin on their nose.</p>
<p>So I don’t expect McCain to walk away from Hagee or send back his endorsement. For every Jewish vote he might lose by hanging onto Hagee’s endorsement, he’d lose – what? – 10 right-wing Conservative votes? </p>
<p>Although McCain personally disagrees vehemently with everything I just read in the link from Post l, and has said so, he won’t give up the votes from the right-wing base just to glean some Jewish votes. </p>
<p>What Hagee wrote about Jews and Israel is a thousand times more specific and deadly than anything Wright ever said in metaphoric phraseology about whites and America. </p>
<p>Obama dumped Wright, finally. I don’t think McCain will dump Hagee, ever.</p>
<p>“What Hagee wrote about Jews and Israel is a thousand times more specific and deadly than anything Wright ever said in metaphoric phraseology about whites and America.”</p>
<p>I couldn’t agree more pt3. Interested people should check out the links while they are still available.</p>
<p>Sort of like the twilight zone. Or, if you watch the video, a very bad ancient Roman orator.</p>
<p>If McCain had been a close associate of Hagee for 20 years and wrote about how influential he was in shaping his thoughts, I’d suggest, if all that were true, that McCain would have a severe political problem.</p>
<p>But that’s not the case.</p>
<p>p2n: Hamas did indeed endorse Obama. But Obama didn’t actively seek their endorsement - unlike McCain.</p>
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<p>Ah. So despite that Hagee has essentially said Hitler had God’s support for murdering more than six million Jews, and that Katrina took place because of God’s judgment against gays in New Orleans, McCain is still free to seek, receive, and accept Hagee’s political endorsement, and even defend Hagee’s remarks as “out of context”, as long as the two haven’t had a twenty year connection.</p>
<p>America deserves a president whose honor matches theirs. Vote John “100 years” McCain for president.</p>
<p>It’s always fun to watch people pull a 180 once it’s their ox being gored.</p>
<p>Last I heard, John McCain was “proud” of Hagee’s endorsement - made quite a big show of it, in fact. McCain spent almost a year courting Hagee because he needs conservative evangelicals behind him, and Hagee is his meal ticket in.</p>
<p>The Wright/Hagee relationship is certainly different, but both men were embraced as public and significant parts of the respective campaigns. It was a conscious decision by both candidates, and it’s pathetic that all the Wright-haters can’t even muster the faintest of criticisms for a guy who thinks God was backing Hitler when he killed all those Jews.</p>
<p>The problem I have with Obama is not Rev. Wright so much. It’s that the congregation, of which he is an active member, supports Louis Farrakhan. That’s more troubling to me than the rantings of the minister.</p>
<p>^I am with you, Chedva. This bothers me as well a great deal.</p>
<p>Hunt, I said nothing about the Hamas/Obama situation.</p>
<p>The Hagee question for McCain is fair. Of small moment, but fair.</p>
<p>“If McCain had been a close associate of Hagee for 20 years and wrote about how influential he was in shaping his thoughts, I’d suggest, if all that were true, that McCain would have a severe political problem.”</p>
<p>McCain arduously sought Hagee’e endorsement, and called him one of his spiritual advisors. To this day, Wright has never endorsed Obama, and Obama hasn’t sought his endorsement.</p>
<p>I think it is important to remember that all these Jewish and Mid-East issues go very far back.</p>
<p>President Carter did a lot of politically incorrect things in the region, and except for the Iran Embassy take over, I don’t think he is remembered for the other things. Some remember the Camp David accords, but he did other bad things.</p>
<p>Now he is supporting Hamas, Palestinians in an attempt, I think to make amends (as well as sell books). It is time to look at making amends. Not continue rehashing past acts of LF.</p>
<p>After all, Syria and Israel have begun peace talks! Who ever expected that would occur?</p>
<p>If I had to choose between Wright, LF, Hagee, and their past and present behavior, it would be Obama/Wright. </p>
<p>McCain/Hagee belong in a different species than me. O/W I can relate to. M/H I think are on drugs, or need to be.</p>
<p>p2n, now how significant is Hamas supporting Obama? Obama didn’t seek the endorsement, and Hamas doesn’t vote and aren’t delegates. McCain wanted Hagee’s endorsement.</p>
<p>Dross, I think you overestimate the Wright haters. </p>
<p>Israel in Peace Talks with Syria!</p>
<p>[Straw-Man</a> Diplomacy - TIME](<a href=“http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1808467,00.html]Straw-Man”>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1808467,00.html)</p>
<p>Info re to political power in Iran</p>