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Was your intent to be condescending? If so, congratulations on your success.
I was clearly not talking about “my friends” (my teeth are on edge right now). I used the term “conservative movement” and that’s what I meant. So glad that you know some conservatives, but they are hardly representaive of the movement view.</p>
<p>I also think Romney will be the VP choice. But within the party, Jindal has been dissected very carefully.</p>
<p>Newjack you are entitled to your opinion!</p>
<p>I would like to point out that you have called me a nut job, stupid and naive. That too is your right! I, however, will not resort to this level. I will just accept that my vote will cancel out yours, and if Obama wins I will not slander him and give him my utmost respect and trust. If he wins, he will be our President, our country is in his hands and I believe that is a burden I would never want or desire, thus I admire him and respect him for putting himself out there.</p>
<p>Go ahead attack me again…fair warning I will ignore any attack.</p>
<p>I respect you and have never called you stupid, naive or slandered you, please rise to the same level.</p>
<p>My apologies to the forum for my response, however, I could not allow it to go unanswered…Newjack I too know how to right click on the name.</p>
<p>Back to the thread.</p>
<p>Zooser you might be right…it is awfully quiet on the McCain front about Romney…McCain meets with Guiliani and Jindal over the past few days, but not Romney.</p>
<p>I can’t remember a VEEP candidate that the media got right in the past few cycles. I recall Gore being in NC in 00 and everyone thought it would be Edwards, then out of the blue came Lieberman. Same with Kerry, very few believed Edwards would be the VEEP. Nobody expected Cheney.</p>
<p>I think that Jindal is just being put out there for speculation my guess is it will be Crist, or Romney</p>
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This is absolutely true as well, although I feel that young voters have been and will be more dedicated to this candidate, just because of how his campaign has been run and focused, as well as the length of the battle. In the end though, this combined with factors such as the Do Not Call list leads to a fairly skewed poll in both directions. Rasmussen’s only hope is that the skews cancel out, which usually doesn’t happen. These early polls usually mean very little, which is something we’ve already agreed upon anyway, so this tangent is sort of off-topic. </p>
<p>By the way, I know that younger voters are more attuned to this election because I’m 20 years old, and all (read: all) of the Obama supporters I know, including myself, have been and are very excited and have already made plans for November 4th. A significantly smaller proportion feel that way about McCain. In fact, I believe in this election cycle it will actually be more the case where more die-hard republicans will stay home.</p>
<p>Don’t ask why I’m in the Parent’s Cafe; its the only place to have anywhere close to an intelligent conversation about politics.</p>
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<p>It is the know-it-all-ness that you and several others bring that causes me and other parents to be very unwelcoming to kids on PC threads. Now, there are several like Jessie and HGFM who are a joy, but I can’t stand condescending kids in any aspect of my life. Not even my own.</p>
<p>You don’t know republicans at all if you think we will stay home. Maybe more education/information would be a good thing.</p>
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<p>It’s good that these folks are upfront in their bias. However, the ones that really scare me are those that tell pollsters that they will vote for a black candidate and in the privacy of the voting booth do the opposite. What’s been dubbed the Bradley Effect.</p>
<p>Corranged and One of 42 are good posters as well. Is that his name? The Princeton student from Canada.</p>
<p>I read an article the other day that mentioned Pawlenty from MN as a possible VP for McCain. I don’t know much about him.</p>
<p>I heard on the news this morning something about a new poll showing gradually declining interest among younger voters–which could spell trouble for Obama. (So, HiWei, work hard to get out the vote!) It’ll be interesting to see which candidate is more successful in bringing all branches of their parties together and to the polling booths come November.</p>
<p>zoosermom, I can’t believe you are actually considering voting for Obama. You must really hate McCain! Is it mainly the immigration issue?</p>
<p>BTW, I agree that Jindal is a great asset for the Republicans and I agree that race would not be a factor at all in his electability. His extreme youth would disqualify him from this particular race.</p>
<p>Zoosermom–I have a feeling you may be right about Romney. He’d make sense as a VP in certain respects, but he and McCain still have some fence-mending to do. They clearly couldn’t stand each other during the primary season, and I’ll admit to being on McCain’s side of the fence in that regard. … Jindal would be a good counterpoint to McCain, age-wise, but I’m sure some will consider him too young. He was born in 1971!</p>
<p>Here is a problem with the 18-22 crowd, most are registered in their hometown. If you attend college out of the area you need to request an absentee ballot, weeks ahead of time, if you don’t than you can’t vote. </p>
<p>Also, many of he 18-22 are hyped up in the primary (look at Dean as an example), but in the end believe their vote doesn’t make a difference, which is why they don’t show up in droves. I recall in the PA primary every network interviewing colleges about if they were going to vote…all of them said yes, in the end the % was nominal…basically all talk no action.</p>
<p>I hope the youth comes out, but historically they don’t. I wouldn’t hold my breath that the youth will be a HUGE factor…sorry!</p>
<p>Vicarious, I’m sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. I’m not considering voting for Obama, although I think there is much about him to like and would never consider myself an Obama hater.</p>
<p>I don’t hate McCain, but I dislike him intensely. I will cop to my own hypocrisy in that I hold conservatives to a higher standard and he doesn’t even attempt to meet that. Senator McCain is dismissive of his base and I disagree so vehemently on the immigration issue that I practically foam at the mouth. His choice of immigration advisor is a testament to the fact that he is not called “McAmensty” for nothing. Makes me absolutely nuts.</p>
<p>The main reason I won’t vote for Obama is that someone has to rein in Pelosi and Reid, and it certainly won’t be Obama. The prospect of both houses of Congress and the White House in inept democratic hands makes me ill. I will not be happy in voting for McCain, though, but vote I will. I will pout and fuss and possibly stamp my feet. Should he win (which I doubt), I will complain and say nasty things about him for the duration of his service.</p>
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<p>We can’t complain about lack of experience if we put forth someone younger and less experienced to be a heartbeat from the presidency. That’s why Jindal won’t get picked. He takes our best argument off the table.</p>
<p>^^^ That is why he won’t be picked for VEEP</p>
<p>bandp - you just reminded me of something missing from D’s to do list - the absentee ballot. She missed the primary vote because of a college visit and was so disappointed to miss her first chance to vote. I’m sure Hillary missed her vote.</p>
<p>LOL, ZM, now I have another reason to root for Obama!</p>
<p>Glad to help cartera, our DS filled it out already.</p>
<p>For everyone else many states require the absentee @ 6 weeks out…so make sure you request by late Sept.</p>
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Wow, speaking of condescending… haha.
A few things, and then I’ll let you parents get back to business. :)</p>
<p>I have never claimed to be a “know-it-all,” in fact I’ll even agree that I have things to learn and grow on. That said, however, I definitely think I know more than enough to make an intelligent comment on a forum. Many of the things I say are based on my own beliefs and observations, but even more is based on fact. </p>
<p>I’ve read some of your previous posts, zoosermom, and you seem to get angry quite quickly when someone has a view that is different from yours and you mis-interpret what they have to say. I really wasn’t trying to be condescending towards you when I talked about Jindal. There’s no reason for me to be? I gain nothing by demeaning you.</p>
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I totally believe you when you say you won’t stay at home, but I also don’t believe you speak for all republicans. Making a generalization that I don’t know anything about republicans if I disagree with you does not help your argument, in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>I think that the conversation I had with bulletandpima was very interesting and at no point did it become personally negative. And thanks, Hindoo, I will definitely work hard.</p>
<p>Hiwei, I agree it was interesting and never did either of us become negative. That is how it should be. Agree to disagree! As I have said before my vote will just cancel out someone elses and vise a verse.</p>