McDermott Scholars Program

I’m really disappointed in this year’s McDermott finalists. I replied to everyone that asked questions both on this thread and numerous PM’s, some I exchanged several very long PM’s with. They were all very thankful AT THE TIME but I asked for one thing in return, a report on their impression of finalist’s weekend. I suspect things are changing a bit this year and I’m just curious. They all agreed that they’d let me know how things went and I have yet to hear back from one single person! This includes both parents and students that contacted me. No PM reports, no response to my post here. Frankly this is just RUDE!

Just in case you are wondering I was very positive about the program in general but explained it’s not a good fit for everyone but please make sure you go into it with an open mind because it’s an amazing opportunity for the right students.

I did not see your previous response and am very sorry about not answering before.
The finalist weekend was amazing and all of the finalists were really great and highly qualified. There were guest speakers from Collegium V, National Merit Scholarship Foundation and a lot of professors and faculty. Overall, the lectures and all of the events definitely sold the university and the McDermott program. Although I visited UTD before, I never knew about some of the things that were told, such as the amazing opportunities and classes that Collegium V offers.
Although the weekend was definitely stressful with the interviews and so much stuff planned on campus and for Saturday in general, it was really nice that there were informal parties for the finalists to get to know the current McDermott freshman and upperclassmen.
Now that the weekend is over, all I can do is to wait for the results, which I am extremely anxious for.

Thank you so much @Ant123 It’s ironic the you are the first and only reply and you and I had the most brief interaction and I don’t think I even asked you specifically for a report. Thank you again! I’d also like to know if you found the information I gave you accurate. I know things change so I want make sure I’m not giving out inaccurate information in the future.

The info you gave was accurate. Like you said,the personal interviews were one finalists and two alumnis and the group interview was pretty much a discussion between the finalists about topics given by a few faculty members and alumni. Your advice was definitely helpful and it was nice to know what to expect.

@3scoutsmom, replying to this post has been on my to-do list for past few days but other items were more urgent. I clearly did not realize your feelings. My apologies. I’ll give you my perception here as well as that of my DS though I’m not much of a writer.

The whole weekend was nicely arranged. On Friday, they mentioned that we were not going to be given any dinner and we should arrange our own. So we had to get something to go on the way. As it turned out, they did have fair amount of food that was served. Enough to make a meal. The mingling session for parents on Friday was good. We met a bunch of different folks from Texas as well as from other parts of the country (California, Ohio etc.). The former director of McDermott office was there as well.

Saturday was a busy day and started way too early for kids at 6.15. Weather was lousy for a campus tour but we endured it. Nothing special about campus tour but better than doing it by ourselves. The golf carts helped quite a bit. Lunch was at the cafeteria and was so so (I’ve been told that before as well).

The afternoon campus resource presentation with the UTD PD chief was nice but I know the area and safety is not a big concern there. But I’m sure it helped out of town parents. Later in the afternoon, we had presentations from couple of UTD professors (Dr. Voit and Dr. Kildbeck), both McDermott scholars. This clearly showed that UTD has some smart people teaching there. There were couple of other sessions as well.

Dinner was hurried but we had a good chat with alumni and then we were off to the Symphony. We were allowed to ride with our kids and sit with them. That was a treat.

Sunday was the final Q&A. They answered all the questions though most of them have been addressed before.

So nothing particularly dramatic happened in any of these parent events that I noticed. No one withdrew their name etc. All were very friendly and the Director and the panelist did a good job of selling UTD and the program. I did not hear too much about alumni wedding attendances or anything similar. They must have read CC forums! :-). I also did not feel that anyone was judging me (might be wrong but I’ll never know!).

My DS had good interviews and decent group discussions. Both sets of interviewers were good to him and asked pertinent questions. Nothing controversial or political was asked. Though we did hear that some other students with another group were asked some questions related to their “privilege” etc.

My DS liked the program and if he were offered a spot, he’ll consider it seriously. He has couple of other great offers in hand as well. I liked the program as well. All finalists who are selected are going to have a tough decision as most will have other great choices. Though more than few alumni told us how they had given up Harvard and other Ivies to join McDermott.

We’ve not heard anything yet but they were going to take up to 2 weeks. So I’ll give them until end of this week. Otherwise, we’ll have to assume a no. I’ve not seen anyone who has been offered a spot but they might have been told not to mention any offers.

Echoing some other comments, I feel that this is a great program and specifically for pre-med, pre-law, lib arts students. You do need to conform to their rules but you’ll come out more polished and ready to take on bigger things later.

Please let me know if anyone has specific questions.

@go2univ Thank you so much for your detailed reply! I think this will help future applicants as well as satisfy my personal curiosity. It sounds like things are pretty much they same. Glad they toned down the whole wedding thing of McDermotts marring of McDermotts, that one kind of creeped me out;-)

I was wondering if they said anything about taxes especially since they changed the tax rules and the new rules have some major tax implications for really big scholarships that far exceed tuition, books and certain fees?

Thank you again and also those that replied to me privately, I’m sorry I had a public temper tantrum to get a responses but it was just so hard to root for you all when everyone was silent!

Best of luck to all this years finalist!

@3scoutsmom, They did not mention taxes which apply on non-tuition portion of the scholarship. Given the new tax laws, the standard deduction for individual filer (student) is quite high now (12K I think). So even if the non-tuition portion is valued at $20K per year, the taxable amount will be about $8K taxed at a very low tax rate. I don’t know the travel portion but that cannot be more than $5K in value for couple of those trips. If I’m missing something here, please let me know.

not that the McDermott scholarship isn’t a fantastic deal but I won’t say that the new scholarship tax rate is very low. They now use the estate/trust tax rate.

From: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/11/you-might-owe-taxes-if-you-got-a-scholarship.html

I believe that this article over simplifies things and there are some graduated steps before you get to that 37% but in the case of really big scholarships that offer stipends to cover Spring, Fall and Summer room and board and personal expenses (in 2017 the McDermott stipend was $1400 a month $16,800- but I’m sure it has gone up to match the increase in room and board), large study aboard packages ($12k) and other personal development items ($3K) and travel, taxes are some thing to think about.

Again more money is always a good thing and the first year shouldn’t be a problem since it’s only half of the tax year, it’s just some thing you should be aware of and plan for so your student has the funds available to pay their tax bill and isn’t blindsided by it.

I did not know the changes in the dependent tax rates. I’ll have to research that. These might not be applicable if the student files his/her own tax return. Were we not trying to simplify the tax code? LOL.

Because they “simplified” the tax code it doesn’t matter.

Has anyone been accepted yet?

My daughter loves the travel and scholarship aspects of McDermott, and she has top stats, but do you think it’s a fit for a fairly quiet introvert? (She’s not shy or retiring, btw - just needs her time and space.) She’s a kind, humble, drama-free kid - and quite articulate, but not necessarily the “rah rah” type. Are they typically looking for more outgoing students? All of the “extras” for McDermott are what she’s looking for beyond the traditional campus experience, so I’d love to hear your thoughts.

My daughter is not a McDermott but she does hang out with them quite a bit. The school does expect these scholars to be ambassadors from the school to the community. I don’t believe it is “rah rah” but to represent UTD in a favorable light at meeting VIPs in the community and alumni. It is very beneficial to the McDermott’s as far as networking and things like that. They are also expected to attend ballets, symphonies, plays and things like that. They are expected to be leaders on campus and to do community service. By leading, I mean being active in clubs and participating in leadership positions. One that I know of was active in a fraternity and in the swim club. Another started a club that provides marketing material to other clubs. Things like that.

I know there are several parents with closer ties to the McDermott program on this forum, hopefully they will respond as well.

Anyone has number of UG students in School of Natural Sciences and Mathematics at UT Dallas?

Here you go @texaggie https://www.utdallas.edu/ospa/information-by-school/nsm/

Not sure if this thread is still active, but it’s been really helpful!

My son has been accepted into UTD and into CV as a NMSF (and projected finalist). We’re talking about about applying to McDermott but have a couple of questions/concerns:

  1. How important is service for the application?

He’s a bit short on service hours. He is in the second year of being mentor in a local program, but that’s pretty much it - probably 20 hours/year.

2.How important are recs? His counselor rec would be good but he has no strong relationships with teachers. Would a rec from his employer (Mathnasium) be a plus?

  1. He is being recruited to play tennis at UTD. Would it even be possible to play a varsity sport with the time demands of McDermott?

His academics are strong: 4.8/4.0 GPA, 1510 SAT, 5/418 Rank, IB Diploma Candidate.

His EC’s are OK I think - 2x state champion tennis player and 8x nationals qualifier, speech and debate club treasurer, math club tutor, student council rep.

If it’s more academic based, I think he has a shot. If service and recs are weighted heavily, probably not. What do you think?

@BMC9670 I am wondering the same thing for my DD20

We are nearly in the same boat … just different requirement that is off.

DD is NMS/F we certainly expect finalist

ACT 35
SAT 1540
GPA 4.76/3.95
Class rank … this is our problem: 71/785 … does not put her in top 5% … She goes to a highly competitive magnet school that required a test-in to enroll. By highly competitive her class includes 27 NMSF candidates!

Also a debater, (3 years as captain, 2 years on exec board, made to Nats as F/S/J), tutor, leadership positions, decent service hours

Her LOCs will be fantastic as she does have really close relationships with multiple teachers

If she makes it to McDermott finalist she will interview very well … but making it there is the big worry!

I wouldn’t think rank would be a deal breaker if the quality of her school is that high. Her stats are excellent!

My son decided not to apply to McDermott. If he chooses UTD (in his top 3), he would play varsity tennis and doesn’t want to run into time issues between the two. As a physics/math major and already accepted to the honors college, he’ll have a full plate.

Good luck!

@BMC9670 Thanks … we will see how she does.

Side note:
I am an avid tennis player myself so impressed by your son, wish I had found the sport before I turned 45 LOL

I finally got my UTR up to a 5 which was a huge goal of mine, and at over 50yo makes me pleased …

Out of curiosity, what is your son’s UTR? (Good ACT scores are one thing, but a good UTR is also great :smiley: )

Ha! That made me laugh! Exactly what my son says when I preach to him about grades and test scores.

His UTR was 10.8 the summer before his Junior year when he started to get recruiting offers. He was also a State High School Champion and was ranked #1 in our USTA Section at the time. It’s in the low 10’s now as he hasn’t competed as much the past year to focus on school, testing, etc.

Tennis has been great for him (and me). I’m also his coach so we’ve spent a lot of time together over the years training and traveling all over the US to tournaments. Lot’s of great memories. But tennis was never the primary scholarship goal. Its really competitive and there are no guarantees. We’ve focused on academics for scholarships and its paying off big time!