<p>Mel Gibson is done.
Join me in a “Anti Mel Gibson Campaign” by not spending a dime on any movie
he is involved in from this point on.</p>
<p>To me, it sounds like she taped over an earlier recording of him - the sound quality between the two voices is quite disparate.</p>
<p>I am in now way defending what Mel Gibson said. But she knew he would say these things and she knew how to trigger him to further rage. He is TOTALLY responsible for his disgusting rant. But she knew what she was doing. She knew what she was doing when she went after a married man. She knew what and how to trigger his behavior when she was not in the room. NO a woman is not responsible when she is a victim of domestic abuse. But this particular woman knows how to take care of her case.</p>
<p>Legal that is</p>
<p>Revolting, yes. </p>
<p>But let’s not forget that Roman Polanski, a child rapist and child sodomist, is still making movies and winning awards. </p>
<p>Hollywood doesn’t really have any moral compass.</p>
<p>fendrock, I agree. On The View they hypothesized that she re-recorded her voice so that it is clearer. She also may have changed the tone, too.</p>
<p>I agree with ellebud. He’s a pig, but she was unnaturally calm and collected on that tape. She was leading the witness.</p>
<p>Re: Roman Polanski yes you are right. But the majority of Hollywood doesn’t voice an opinion about him. (Yes, that does make them whores.) They are waiting to see which way the wind blows. France and Switzerland have openly supported the SOB. And that is far worse. But then again, maybe not. At least we know where the governments stand on his behavior.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Sue - I feel exactly the same way. There was always something “off” about Mel Gibson. I never thought he was good looking, I think because of this. He just gets worse and worse doesn’t he?</p>
<p>^^^^ And that’s why, to me, the GF isn’t just protecting herself with these tapes. It’s a steady drip drip drip of increasingly shocking information. Too shrewd to be a coincidence.</p>
<p>^^^Go Oksana, expose Mel for ‘what’ he really is!</p>
<p>I only listened to today’s released tape, not the earlier ones that were released. Just this one alone is so chilling. This man’s behavior is the epitome of abuse and control. (and I’m not even getting into his bigotry which is abhorrent) I am surprised by those who are saying she set him up. When a woman is a victim of verbal abuse, it is hard for others to believe her as there is no black eye and broken bones, etc. (though apparently she has had her teeth knocked out by him reportedly). The fact that she taped his behavior is not the issue. I am sure there were many other incidents like these (and already just these tapes are from more than one incident), enough so that she finally recorded it for evidence. She is the victim here. She did not make him behave like that. She taped it. She was driven to tape it having experienced abuse this severe enough times to want to seek evidence. Even without money involved, they have a kid together and she now has proof of his treatment. Some women have journals or tell a friend but she’d be up against people not believing her as he is a star, etc. and so she was wise to tape it. Put the blame where it belongs, on this abusive man. When you start blaming the victim for making him do this, that is the way these abusers think too.</p>
<p>^</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Apparently, in California it is illegal to record a conversation without someone’s consent if the conversation is believed to be confidential. I wonder if he will sue her. I agree that she sounds way too calm for a woman in that situation and her voice quality is a lot different than his. Nevertheless, it is beyond appalling and if I was living with someone who was threatening me, I’d record it, regardless of the law. I think this law should have an exception in cases where people feel threatened or a crime is being committed against them.</p>
<p>Well he WAS set up…but the reasons for doing it were valid…I don’t think anyone is blaming her for doing it. Drug dealers get set up too and they’re the scum of the earth. Maybe just semantics here…</p>
<p>The guy is a total jerk. I hope he gets thrown into prison.</p>
<p>What is unclear is what her motives are here, beyond protecting herself. Was releasing this info to the press really necessary? I wouldn’t do that if I were in her shoes…although I would do the taping for sure.</p>
<p>I’m not sure how or why they were released to the public and frankly, really should not be, as they were private conversations. But this kind of behavior and abuse is behind closed doors usually and so she was protecting her interests in gathering evidence for either police or court, etc.</p>
<p>By the way, the fact that she was calm was not that unusual. Yes, she knew it was being taped obviously and so made sure she did not misbehave. But also someone who is with an abuser who is this bad and very threatening, may have learned some strategies to not engage at that level, and/or is in fear that he will escalate. I know you may expect her to shout and fight back but this is not an equal relationship with two people fighting, but it is one of an abuser who is out of control in rage, threatening the victim, etc. It is not normal marital “fighting” or conflict. She may have learned to not “fight back” or else it could be even worse for her when he was in this “Jekyll” mode.</p>
<p>“Because, God forbid, she taped his threats.”</p>
<p>Her taping the threats has nothing to do with my opinion that you quoted. I think it’s great that she got him on tape. My opinion is based on the fact that we all knew exactly what kind of man he was long before Oksana took up with him. We’ve never even met him, and we all knew he was abusive garbage. The “sugar tits” DUI happened in 2006. The stuff that’s coming out now is just filling in the edges of the picture. So anyone who dated him had plenty of information to judge his character, and for whatever reason, chose to date and have a baby with him (and expose her older child to him) despite having all that information. That is unbelievably sick, in my book.</p>
<p>Heck yeah, I think that OJ’s current girlfriend, whoever she is, is crazier than OJ. At a minimum, it’s a tie.</p>
<p>I’m sure when drug dealers are set up, there has been a court order to record them – otherwise it would compromise the arrest and prosecution. But I certainly have no problem with her recording him except that I’m sure his team of lawyers will find a way to use it against her, which bugs me. I hope this tape gets used against him to keep him from having unmonitored visits with his child. I’ve seen parents lose custody for far less, but I’ve also seen them keep it for far more.</p>
<p>Hanna, I can imagine a woman overlooking the 2006 incident because he was drunk, especially if he was on the wagon. I can imagine him looking into her eyes with those big blue eyes and telling her how much he regretted that moment and how he was drunk and how he went to anger management (or bigotry management or whatever he had to do) and saw the light. The guy is an actor and a pretty good one. I’m sure he knew how to act to sweep a woman off of her feet. It’s doubtful he was acting like this at the outset of the relationship. I have a problem blaming the victim, especially when it comes to domestic abuse. She may have made some really bad judgements, especially since, at the very least, she knew he was married when she got involved with him. But bad judgement doesn’t make someone crazy.</p>
<p>He’s a male chauvinist pig. The kind that thinks that the status of a woman is so beneath that of a man that her main purpose in life is to produce babies and serve the man. He’s a hypocrite. He’s one of those fundamentalist Catholics (I don’t really know if this is the correct term) who goes around judging and belittling anyone who doesn’t agree with his idea of religion. On top of all of this, he’s an abusive and angry drunk.</p>
<p>I will never go to see one of his movies whether he’s the actor, the director, or a member of the crew.</p>
<p>“I have a problem blaming the victim, especially when it comes to domestic abuse.”</p>
<p>Who’s blaming? I’m saying that her choices are sick, not that his actions are her fault. I hope he rots in jail. Good for her for taping him.</p>
<p>I could buy the “swept off her feet” scenario if we were talking about an 18-year-old. She was 40 and had been a mom in Hollywood for ten years. I can’t attribute her decisions to simple foolishness and naivete. There’s sickness there if she thought having a child with this man was a good idea, whether for love or money. At its extreme, I believe that bad judgment does cross into craziness. It’s crazy to send all your money to Nigerian scam artists, it’s crazy to sell your house to buy heroin, and it’s crazy to think that a man with a recent history of misogynistic abuse is going to be a good dad to your baby girl.</p>
<p>We’ve all got some crazy in us, heaven knows. We all ignore the evidence sometimes and believe what we wish were true. This is just an extreme case.</p>
<p>What you originally said was that she’s “sicker” than he is. Are you now backtracking on that (I hope)? Have you actually listened to these recordings?</p>