<p>This is a very silly thread. Let’s see if I understand what is being said here. Because guys want to have sex, they must hate women. First, wanting to have sex and feeling entitled to having sex are two different things. I have been a guy for a long time and I can safely say that all the guys I have known don’t feel entitled to any particular woman or feel it is okay to rape a woman. Okay, there are a few sick or obnoxious guys out there who treat woman poorly, but they are not representative of the male gender. Not even close. It’s actually insulting to read the sweeping generalizations in this thread about 50% of the population. BTW, let’s not confuse the dysfunctional relationships between some males and females with some generalized syndrome called misogyny. Yes, there are guys who mistreat women and vice versa because of psychological issues relating to intimacy and sexuality. Neither sex is immune from these problems. Finally, I suspect that women who are convinced that misogyny is a widespread phenomenon are revealing more about themselves and their inadequacies than anything relating to the male culture.</p>
<p>One last point I want to make. The reason why there is so much drinking at college parties is because the guys and girls don’t know how to relate to each and are terrified of rejection. Unfortunately, they need the alcohol to give them the courage to shed their inhibitions.</p>
<p>Any data to support that opinion? </p>
<p>Two of my recent experiences that reflect a male point of view that as a woman, I am not allowed the same service & privacy that a male would be.
Most egregious, IMO was when my orthopedic surgeon, who was very experienced in joint replacements, absolutely refused to consider me for a replacement, despite the fact that all my articular cartilage was ground away in my knee capsule, my joint was bone on bone & I could not longer walk around the block even with a cane.
His reasoning? I was too young at 55.
( although he routinely performed this surgery on male athletes half my age)
After I went through months of feeling like my life was over because I was in so much pain I couldnt function, I finally had my knee replaced by a different Dr.
I then found out that I wasnt the first middle aged woman that the first Dr had brushed off, unless they were socially connected as with the governors wife.</p>
<p>Another very typical incident was when I was waiting for a bus downtown. A man who may have been drunk/ homeless approached me and began playing with my hair, stroking it and telling me how beautiful it was.
I froze, too scared to do anything. </p>
<p>Things like the above happen so often that women dont even recognize how damaging they are to their sense of self, because we have been conditioned to think that men must get their way, even if we disagree.</p>
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Oh, no! That would not fly with me and many other of my female friends. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t let him get that close in the first place, and secondly, he’d be finding a swatting hand getting in the way of his hair striking desires. </p>
<p>I can imagine how it is damaging to their self. They’re letting anybody to anything to their body. They must be willing to defend it. Just maybe a couple nights ago, me and my friends were walking from a place in downtown. A homeless man lunged out to touch my thigh, muttering about how my legs look nice. Only his fingertip grazed my leg, but I moved away from him and had my hand ready to slap him. You need to be serious with them. </p>
<p>I understand the impulse to slap the guy, but I wouldn’t want to get into a physical altercation with a homeless man, or any man that was putting his hands on me without my consent, unless I was sure I could win it. What’s going to happen after I give the guy the richly deserved slap? After all, this is a person who has already shown that he won’t respect my boundaries or the rules of civil society. When I slap him, is he going to grab me and start manhandling me? </p>
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You distance yourself that’s what happens. </p>
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Well, given the situation that I was in, he was going to start manhandling me. If I just “did nothing”, he would’ve had my entire leg. </p>
<p>I don’t see anything wrong with slapping his hand away. :shrug: </p>
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<p>The point of mental illness is that it is not the excuse that is the cause.</p>
<p>He may just as easily have killed because he is against left-handed blondes or fears women who wear jeans, or believe that it will help him to live with Slenderman.</p>
<p>How many women get harassed do you wonder?
<a href=“Now We Know How Many Women Get Groped by Men in Public – Mother Jones”>http://m.motherjones.com/media/2014/06/street-harassment-survey-america</a></p>
<p>What should I conclude from this, emerald?</p>
<p>Well, I’ve been harassed. That includes being touched, being followed, and having comments whispered to me. </p>
<p>Not lately, I must admit.</p>
<p>Not sure I totally understand the situation with the surgeon. Surgeons make money by doing surgery. So if they are refusing to do a surgery there probably is a good reason or concern. I don’t really think it is because you are a woman, and he wanted to deny you or couldn’t be bothered. That seems unlikely. </p>
<p>The hair incident does sound unpleasant to say the least. I had a guy try to slide his hand under my rear on a subway. It was creepy, but I just moved seats, and problem solved. Most guys wouldn’t do these things . . .these are just a few weird outliers that I really don’t think are at all representative of male behavior. Once in forty years is pretty good. </p>
<p>My primary physician agreed with me that it was likely that the surgeon recognized that I had been active, and didnt want to deal with a situation where it may need to be replaced.
Even though its likely by the time it needed to be replaced, better technology would likely be available.
( and since he didnt have a problem working on professional athletes, who were even harder on their knees)
He said it was because I was ten yrs too young for a replacement. If it actually was another issue, it would have been more professional to disclose it, so that my next dr would be informed.</p>
<p>Its hard to imagine a Dr having the tools to give someone back their mobility and refusing to do so, i know.
Im glad I took a chance on a young Dr as the older ones werent taking new patients.
I am walking all over the place now and I even bought a bicycle!</p>
<p>My primary physician agreed with me that it was likely that the surgeon recognized that I had been active, and didnt want to deal with a situation where it may need to be replaced.
Even though its likely by the time it needed to be replaced, better technology would likely be available.
( and since he didnt have a problem working on professional athletes, who were even harder on their knees)
He said it was because I was ten yrs too young for a replacement. If it actually was another issue, it would have been more professional to disclose it, so that my next dr would be informed.</p>
<p>Its hard to imagine a Dr having the tools to give someone back their mobility and refusing to do so, i know.
Im glad I took a chance on a young Dr as the older ones werent taking new patients.
I am walking all over the place now and I even bought a bicycle!</p>
<p>Ahhh, I see. Glad you found someone who was more reasonable and that you are back on the move!!!</p>
<p>OK, here’s something to think about. Tell me if this is misogyny.</p>
<p>I was at the gym and a young man was wearing a T shirt. On the front, it read:</p>
<p>I came
I saw</p>
<p>On the back, it read:</p>
<p>I left with one of your cheerleaders</p>
<p>This suggests – no, declares – that the cheerleaders “belong” to someone, and that the conquering hero gets to “steal” one of them. Right?</p>
<p>Another interpretation, if one is to take it seriously enough to really give it thought-
is that he was appealing enough that a school’s cheerleader chose to go with him. No conquering was mentioned- in fact, the “conquering” was REMOVED from the quote.
Could very well be the cheerleader in the fictitious example is completely consenting and that no force was applied. If, of course, anyone besides VeryHappy takes a t-shirt literally.
I guess if beauty is in the eye of the beholder, evil can be too.</p>
<p>In case VeryHappy isn’t sure, “Kill the Umpire” is another expression for those that disagree with an unpire’s decision. It is thought of only as an expression, and is not to be taken literally.</p>
<p>It’s just a douchey t-shirt to me. Nothing that screams out “The wearer of this t-shirt is a misogynist and he is the reason why women can’t be happy…yada, yada.”</p>
<p>The day before he was probably wearing a “Do you even lift, bro?” tee. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t take it seriously. </p>
<p>Am I taking myself too seriously? It’s been known to happen before.</p>
<p>Its just a douchey tshirt.
The funny thing about douchebags is that they are the opposite of self aware.</p>