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I’ve honestly never heard anyone anyone state ‘chick flick’ to be demeaning before. I think the main reason for the term is the rhyme with ‘flick’ and the descriptive appeal of certain movies to a certain audience segment (plus some others). </p>
<p>Since this seems to bother you so much and my posts here are frivolous at best, I’ll exit the thread. I didn’t mean any offense.</p>
<p>I just really doubt too many women on this site would be pleased to be referred to as “chick”</p>
<p>Ooh! Guess what we put on after Hendrix? That’s RIGHT! When Harry Met Sally! What a good movie! Laughing and enjoying already, even after seeing it how many times. And you know what? It’s really about this guy named Harry and HIS commitment issues. Yes! It’s a GUY movie!</p>
<p>And ucsd<em>ucla</em>dad, I’m sure you didn’t mean anything by it, but maybe you just didn’t realize that women would find “chick” offensive. I hope I didn’t say anything that you would take offense to causing you to leave.</p>
<p>I just watched French Kiss- from a CC recommendation ( perhaps we should put out a guide)
I expected Meg to go into her diner scene on the flight to Paris- I think she wanted to ;)</p>
<p>Lackawanna Blues.</p>
<p>I won tickets to the stage production a few years ago
Fantastic- didn’t see the movie however- I didn’t want to be disappointed- but was it good?</p>
<p>I think there are romantic comedies like A fish called Wanda or Love Actually- which I think are both great.
I don’t like what I think of as “chick flicks” because I find that the characters are not very complex- I run the other way from Jack Nickelson for example.</p>
<p>I also think the term chick flick is meant to be demeaning.
I don’t have a problem with movies that you are meant to forget as soon as you walk out of the theatre. As long as you aren’t having to look at your watch every 10 minutes when you are inside the theatre that is.</p>
<p>I also would laugh at the thought that “shoot-em-up” movies * aren’t* formulaic.</p>
<p>I would normally go see anything that Tommy Lee Jones or Javier Bardem was in- but I really have no desire to see Old country.
However- I would recommend The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada & The Sea Inside.</p>
<p>( my H doesnt go to movies- he won’t even watch them in bed on my laptop)</p>
<p>as for shootemups I noticed that itunes had The Brave One to rent- so I am watching that tonight.</p>
<p>No Country for Old Men raised many thoughts as to the nature of right vs. wrong. Good vs. Bad. (Chigurhh vs. Sheriff Bell) Bell as the “old man” as well as the character he visited at the end (an uncle I believe) and how society had changed so dramatically over the years. The final scene in the film in which Bell is clearly coming to terms with his own mortality, as do others. When Lewellen’s wife for example refuses to guess whether the coin was heads or tails. Certainly Llewellen was as equally wrong as Chigurhh (sp?). He wanted the money and was determined to keep it knowing full well it wasn’t his to keep. But even Chigurhh lived by a certain code of honor. As abhorrent as his character was he was a man of his word.
So the film includes themes as to the meaning of mortality and morality. This film was dark, yes, but extremely thought provoking IMO. </p>
<p>For the record I do not dislike all movies involving a love story. I thought Atonement was equally brilliant. Not only a love story but it too brought up the theme of right vs. wrong and atoning for a horrible wrong. The way in which the film shows what Briony believes she saw and then what truly happened, shows the power of perceptions. It also includes commentary on the British class system and justice.</p>
<p>Being a woman, I would object to being called a “chick”. But I don’t object to the term “chick flick”. I take it a humorous attempt to label a movie as something guys wouldn’t like. The problem is everyone feels differently about what a “chick flick” is. My boys loved Juno, which I would have thought to be in that category. They enjoyed “Love Actually” but maybe because I’ve watched it so many times they’ve grown to like it. But many other,s they won’t go see with me. That’s what friends and sisters are for.</p>
<p>Then there are the guy movies I would prefer to avoid. Formula: car chases, blowing things up and a bunch of foul language. Give me a chick flick any day.</p>
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<p>Just as I have no objections to a movie being labeled a guy movie even if preceded by adjectives such as “stupid.” I fully concede that not everyone wants to watch movies containing violence and car chases. Frankly, I don’t really care what label people attach to them.</p>
<p>Of course I am not easily offended. Most people I know would quickly agree. My students would tell you that I’m the first to point out my own mistakes and flaws even though I will say things tongue-in-cheek about being perfect. That’s not to say that other posters are too sensitive, just because I am not quick to take offense doesn’t mean that others are wrong if they are offended. Maybe I’m the one that’s too crass, cynical, or whatever. I’m willing to concede that point.</p>
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<p>Agreed. I have no desire to watch any of the Rambo movies for example. I don’t consider No Country to be a “shoot-em-up” movie even though it is very violent and dark.</p>
<p>Yes, there are Stupid Guy Movies: “Blades of Glory” I think would lead that category, and probably anything a 7th grade boy thinks is absolutely roll on the floor hysterical. The Three Stooges can probably also be put into that category (and yes, please, I know many women who enjoy them, just as I know many guys who like romatic comedies - we’re talking generalities here.)</p>
<p>And one doesn’t get a heck of a lot more formulaic than James Bond.</p>
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And one doesn’t get a heck of a lot more formulaic than James Bond.[/qutoe]</p>
<p>True dat! Which is why I can’t deal with Bond movies.</p>
<p>Well, I think everyone in our house has their moments when they feel under appreciated (including me) but we work through it in a very sophisticated enlightened manner - we scream and stomp our feet and bang doors for awhile. Then everyone feels better.</p>
<p>quote]And one doesn’t get a heck of a lot more formulaic than James Bond.[/qutoe]</p>
<p>Except for the latest Casino Royale- that one stands on its own.</p>
<p>What I have found that is difficult for me is that- my kids feel safe at home ( which is good of course) but that meant that - that is where they save the acting out behavior for-
My H has a different context for words/behaviors than I do & we miscommunicate a lot.</p>
<p>[I</a> expect my H feels like this](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6iktQ2y1Rs]I”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6iktQ2y1Rs)</p>
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<p>That was true of our kids as well, but so many people away from home would tell us how nice our kids were. While I would get frustrated with my kids at times I always kept telling myself that at least they were polite, respectful, and helpful away from home so obviously the values we tried to instill were getting across to them.</p>
<p>yes its much better than kids who act out away from home- even though at home they may be afraid of their parents-
But then since their parents rule with an iron fist, they don’t believe that their kids are little hellions out of the house.</p>
<p>They can’t be good all the time I guess</p>
<p>"No Country for Old Men raised many thoughts as to the nature of right vs. wrong. Good vs. Bad. (Chigurhh vs. Sheriff Bell) Bell as the “old man” as well as the character he visited at the end (an uncle I believe) and how society had changed so dramatically over the years. The final scene in the film in which Bell is clearly coming to terms with his own mortality, as do others. When Lewellen’s wife for example refuses to guess whether the coin was heads or tails. Certainly Llewellen was as equally wrong as Chigurhh (sp?). He wanted the money and was determined to keep it knowing full well it wasn’t his to keep. But even Chigurhh lived by a certain code of honor. As abhorrent as his character was he was a man of his word.
So the film includes themes as to the meaning of mortality and morality. This film was dark, yes, but extremely thought provoking IMO. "</p>
<p>Wharfrat2:</p>
<p>Ok. Maybe I missed something, but I just found it boring. I sure like thought provoking movies, so maybe this one was too subtle for me.</p>
<p>Juno, Love Actually, French Kiss, Harry + Sally, You’ve got Mail" etc. are all enjoyable movies that both men and women like. I think the objection is that the term “chick flick” is MEANT to be demeaning! And that men who use the term as in "I would never go to a “chick flick!” are perhaps missing an experience of seeing a good movie and/or sharing an experience with their … “chick” who … feels underappreciated and … would like someone to care enough to go to a movie that SHE feels like going to instead of always having to go along with what the guys want because they would never see (never mind enjoy, or feign enjoying) a “chick flick.”</p>
<p>Believe me, I have been to plenty of movies I would have preferred not to have seen. With a wife and two daughters, I have sat through 10 romantic comedies for every Full Metal Jacket or Pulp Fiction or No Country. How do you think I came to be turned off by the genre? </p>
<p>Also, I do not take offense when my wife preferred not to see The Simpsons movie for example. That’s fine with me, we worked out an arrangement with some friends of ours. I also would have been perfectly content to see it by myself or wait and rent it when it came out on DVD. My wife, the other wife, and our two daughters went to see a “romantic comedy” while my buddy and I went to see The Simpsons.</p>
<p>As I said I generally sit through American Idol and Extreme Makeover, both of which drive me absolutely crazy. I do so because it makes my wife happy.</p>
<p>BTW I thoroughly enjoyed Juno as well as Atonement.</p>
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<p>I think the objection is to the term “chick flick” which is usually said in a derogatory, snide, and condescending tone and which includes too many good movies (like Juno, etc.) Sure, there are plenty of silly fluff movies (like “37 Dresses”) that women might prefer to see then men, and of course vice versa.</p>
<p>It’s just that TOO MANY good, enjoyable, thought provoking, meaningful, emotional, story driven movies are labeled in a demeaning way as “chick flicks” because they simply have to do with relationships and thus are not “manly” enough or “jock” enough to also be enjoyed by men.</p>
<p>Grey dad, I have been trying to understand what anyone would see in No Country…I literally suffered though it, as I don’t watch TV or do any of those things that toughen the nerves for bloodshed. Though I happily work with all sorts of insanity, and blood in my real life working in critical care. I was looking for some redeeming humor or understanding and found none, aside from a bit of clever insight in that final scene, and a bit of macabre humor and cleverness in Churgurh’s actions at times, as you’d expect of those directors. Any morality seemd the morality of the Nazi’s, pathological, brutal, and why would I ever want to see that or be emotionally exposed to that? The only conclusion I can reach is to be saddened at the acceptance of such a level of violence in anything meant to be entertaining.</p>
<p>Perhaps I’m a Neanderthal, but I have yet to watch a “romantic comedy” that is thought provoking and only as a rarity I find entertaining. Just as you were bored by No Country, I find these movies to be incredibly boring. I do not consider Juno to fall into that genre, maybe you do.</p>
<p>If you consider my choice of terminology to be demeaning then so be it, there really isn’t a whole lot I can do about that. I guess we’ll just have to disagree.</p>