Well I didn’t read it myself, so I can’t say for sure. But in fact that was the charge reported.
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As I wrote in another post, it is not unknown for someone like the suspect, who grew up well off and privileged, to reject everything he was brought up in, like I wrote in another post, many of the SDS and other radicals of the 60s/70’s were priviliged kids who went to elite schools.
Here is the NY penal code on homicides, where people can read the varying definitions of different kinds of homicides under NY law. Such definitions may differ from the definitions in other states.
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He had terrible back pain, had surgery, so perhaps he had encountered the frustration of insurance denials for needed tests and treatment. It also appears that he had completely dropped off the radar, stopped communicating with family and friends for at least the past 6 months. Probably he could have been diagnosed with depression, but I doubt that this was a psychotic break - the entire thing was so carefully planned.
OTOH, there was a paranoid schizophrenic man who carefully stalked a young woman about 15 yrs ago in CT, donned a disguise, shot her to death in the bookstore/cafe where she was working, and then tried to escape. He was clearly capable of premeditated murder, knew it was wrong and tried to evade capture, but he was found not guilty due to insanity, and is currently in the state hospital for the criminally insane.
Mangione of course was starting from a very high level of functioning.
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Is there a source to the “terrible back pain” part?
If so, that still seems like a poor reason to kill a CEO of a health insurance company.
Seems like speculation about personal insurance denials, etc. Is there evidence?
If we’re just speculating, I heard rumor that perhaps he fell in with a “cult” while in Hawaii. If so perhaps that was what turned him into what he is.
Soccer son called during the walk back to his car after a final exam this morning. He said his professor and a few students were discussing this case before the exam. They were overtly sympathetic with the assassin and agreed that the CEO was a “capitalist pig” that deserved what he got. He was dumbfounded.
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Back pain is among the things mentioned about him by those who know him. It was presumably severe enough that he went through surgery to have various pins put in.
The news about that aspect does not mention anything in particular with insurance denials and the like, although the complexity of medical insurance is commonly aggravating even to those knowledgeable about dealing with it.
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Thousands of people every year go through back surgery and have to deal with chronic back pain, but they don’t go and shoot people over it.
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Ok, so that’s a no. Thanks.
And yet, every day people continue on without killing someone else because of their possible frustrations with medical insurance.
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Good for Governor Shapiro.
“In some dark corners, this killer is being hailed as a hero,” Shapiro said. “Hear me on this, he is no hero. The real hero is the person who called 911 at McDonald’s this morning.”
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I believe the back pain angle will be verified - the cult rumor not so much.
My guess is that wearing a mask helped him elude capture initially but wearing it at a McDonald’s in Altoona likely drew attention
Also according to report I just saw customer was sort of joking that guy looked like the suspect. It was employee that took it seriously and called police.
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I just read that 2nd degree murder is highest available charge in NY. In New York, first-degree murder requires one of a host of aggravating circumstances. Those include killing someone who works in law enforcement, killing a witness, killing for hire, killing while serving a long sentence and killings involving torture
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Sorry—posted in wrong thread.
Please get back on topic. There are other threads to discuss health insurance. Thank you!
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Oops sorry, forgot which thread I was in. Maybe makes sense to move those posts to the healthcare thread?
A number of posts moved.
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deleted. I think this belongs in the other thread.
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