It seems they did reaching out through Facebook and other social media apps to his friends
and finally filed a missing persons report shortly before Thanksgiving in the last known area, San Francisco.
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Linked page tries to piece together what Mangione was doing in recent years. There is a lot missing or not publicly known.
Disgusting. Where does this stop? Are people supporting this guy also happy to extend support to those who kill hospital executives? Defense sector executives? Why stop at the executives? Maybe they extend the same lack of value to lives of those who work there. What about the shareholders who perhaps enable the decisions they hate. Should they all be killed?
People who trivialize the life of someone who they disagree with politically, simplifying a complex issue to find one person to blame out of anger - they might find it ends up coming back to hurt them or a loved one on another issue that the public is angry about. Everyone agrees that the healthcare industry needs fixing. But guess what - the education sector also needs fixing. And this is disgusting.
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People who condone murder of anyone should not be allowed to be in positions where they have a platform to influence other people, especially in a university setting.
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Not gonna blame the parents for this evil deed, however, when I suspected something was going wrong with one of my kids recently, I drove home at the speed of heat, shoved some clothes in my suitcase and flew down to see him that night. Just trying to reach out via social media isn’t enough.
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Yes, if I suspected something was amiss with either of my kids, I would definitely be flying out to be right beside them pronto. My kids aren’t all that connected with us via social media in the best of times and I consider that insufficient for our family. I’m sorry for the family and parents–its quite the nightmare.
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Thanks. I am glad to hear his parents were actively looking
Just read the article below. She hadn’t spoken to him since July but only filed a report shortly before thanksgiving.
Thats what I was thinking. I can’t imagine not talking to my kids since July. I would be hiring a PI in a week (or days) of not hearing back from them. I’m sure there is way more to the story for sure.
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He was a 26 year old man. He had a life of his own it looks like before it all went downhill. Even if his parents filed a missing person report after a week of not hearing from him, it wouldn’t have helped. Missing person reports involving adults will not get police attention unless some foul play is seriously suspected. Just look at that Hawaiian woman case… as soon as there was some indication she was not under any duress, the cops stopped all searching even though her whereabouts were still unknown.
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Even people who are as young as 16 have the option to opt out of treatment (including mental health), even though their parents desperately want them to get treated. They can walk out and the police won’t bring them back against their will. This is one of the reasons some people send their minor children to facilities in Utah where the police WILL bring minors back to facilities for treatment if they leave and are under the age of 18.
It can be quite heart-breaking. One acquaintance saw her daughter and the daughter’s pimp and called the police but the police refused to get involved as the daughter chose to be with the male. The parents were powerless.
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DS was at UCSB when a shooter killed three people. That shooters parents had tried several times to get medical/LEO involved since they were concerned about their son’s behavior. LEO would do a welfare check and shooter said ‘all is well’. Shooter declined mental health treatment. On the evening of the shooting the parents KNEW something was wrong and were in the process of driving up from LA. No one in the medical or legal area could ‘do anything’ since the shooter claimed he was fine and hadn’t as of that moment done anything.
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The standard for involuntary commitment is eminent danger to self and others, not “knowing something is off.” It may be something that lawmakers and civil rights advocates and mental health professionals need to revisit, but I believe that’s the current state of the law, at least in Hawaii.
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It’s hard to speculate what his family did or did not do when he went off the grid since it’s unlikely that they officially documented it, thinking they may need to justify themselves in a future horrific scenario.
They are a family of means with no indication that there was an estrangement with their son, so I think we can assume that they did everything they could to locate and support him - given that he is an adult and they can’t force him back home or into treatment. Families who deal with similar scenarios sadly have no choice but to back off at a certain point.
As far as them not identifying him when they saw the pictures, who knows? Think about how you would feel in the same situation - you’d want to be 1000% sure before you made that call (and there were/are a lot of look-a-likes). Maybe they were launching a last-ditch effort to contact him or maybe they were speaking to their lawyers.
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The amount of public figures making jokes or off comments about this is disgusting. Just saw someone on a TV interview say "Violence is never the answer, “But people can only be pushed so far.” And on a late night show, the host actually making jokes in his opening saying how his staff finds him “hot” along with other inappropriate jokes.
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Here is a gift link to the NY Times article in which columnists discuss the murder’s medical context and the public reaction. I’m not posting this link to offend anyone–if this type of talk disturbs you, avoid this article. I just think it is important.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/12/opinion/luigi-mangione-ceo-shooting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.g04.cRL2.o5lXvROjrlNK&smid=url-share
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In reply to “Mangione had plenty of resources so he wasn’t denied healthcare,” I think that may miss the point. He could have been doing what he thought was empathetic or representative of other people, as someone mentioned happened with rich “rebels” in the 1960s. I think that makes the difference between personal vendetta and whatever we call it in general - political violence?
I’m not sure they knew where to start looking until they did reach out to friends.
I think questioning his family’s concern for their son, actions etc is really sad and disrespectful. We know nothing. It starts to warp into how one would do things so differently - I’d move mountains! - which just seems like a way to puff oneself up, think one is better and that this would never happen to you because you’re a better parent. I get it, this is the human reaction, but it’s not right
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I think it’s a mistake to assume that the killer’s parents didn’t try to connect with him, find him, etc.
And let’s remember…this isn’t a 22 yr old right out of college. He’s 26. So he’s been an adult for 8 years. It’s not like he’s a 15 yr old kid. He’s a grown adult. A man.
And like it or not, but no one is obligated to keep in touch with their parents once they reach adulthood. In fact, a fair number of people cease contact with their parents or other relatives for a period of time or, in some cases, permanently, for a variety of reasons.
And if you were his parents, would you want all of your family’s personal business dragged in front of the media and general public like it is right now? Probably not. If I were them, I’d be keeping my mouth shut as much as possible.
I would bet you money that people he knows will start coming out of the woodwork soon to be interviewed by police & the media and they’ll all start painting a picture of what happened in the months leading up to the murder happening. And if there’s a murder trial (i.e., he doesn’t accept a plea bargain), there will be motive stuff discussed in the trial, so we’ll all find out about it eventually.
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