My CCC counselor must've been high...

Colleges & Universities University of California - Los Angeles
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<p>ok I go to community college and I plan on transferring next fall.
I talked to my counselor regarding this matter, but somehow she seemed to be EXTRMELY anti-UCLA for god-knows-what reason…</p>

<p>I’ll try to paraphrase as accurately as possible what she’s said:</p>

<p>“UCLA is among the most crime-fested institute in Southern California; there has been numerous robberies and sexual assaults in the past 5 years and if you are expecting down-to-earth type of faculties I guarantee you how much shocked you will be once you start going there. I’m aware that UCLA was recently included as one of the 25 new Ivies and I’m also aware that UCLA is very prestigious university widely recognized in the nation, but it is also knownfor below-average quality professors. Plus you are planning on engaging in Economics program, but UCLA is more well known for engineering and they teach you more of theory-based materials. If you really consider economics and business for practical purpose, you should try San Diego State because their program ranks among the best in the nation, and it’s very safe there. It’s too unfortunate that too many students think only UCs can guarantee them success because many CSU programs are good, if not better, than those of the UC’s.”</p>

<p>Please tell me what she told me is not true at all…</p>

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<p>it is all theory… i went to ucla planning on majoring in econ/math … its horrible, and i changed to something else… i wouldnt be surprised if sdsu really does have a better rankes econ program</p>

<p>in terms of crime at ucla, i dont know… it seems very safe to me.</p>

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<p>Well aren’t all Economics supposed to really THEORY based? I’ve always thought Economics gets more to do with ideology rather than practicality.</p>

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<p>The crime thing is BS. Our most highly publicized “sexual assault” in the past few years has been the Westwood Groper, and I don’t think you’re at any risk of being boob-grabbed anytime soon, so I wouldn’t worry about it. There’s petty crime like bike lefts and stuff, but I have a hard time imagining that it would be different at any other school. That’s not so much an LA thing as a stupid young people thing. Westwood is one of the safest areas of LA. </p>

<p>About the faculty- it just depends. there are some crappy teachers but there are also some really amazing professors. i’ve found, in my program at least, that the latter are by far the majority.</p>

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<p>The econ program actually is pretty highly ranked. You or someone more motivated than I just might be able to look that up, I’ve seen some stats posted before.</p>

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<p>maybe she was rejected when she applied… <em>shrug</em> </p>

<p>in any case, to my knowledge there hasn’t been any major crimes here… i mean, i think my high school campus was 10 times more dangerous than the UCLA campus…</p>

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<p>First of all, UCLA is very safe. I suggest that you have your counselor demonstrate, using crime statistics, that her argument is true. Sounds to me like she’s latching onto a couple publicized events and extrapolating that that means that the campus is regularly terrorized by crime. It’s not. It’s one of the safest urban campuses in America.</p>

<p>As far as econ goes, welcome to the big league, son. You’re not going to get a lot of “managerial econ” in any of the top econ departments in America. And no, SDSU’s econ department is not higher ranked than UCLA’s because it doesn’t award PhDs. In fact, that pretty much precludes it from being ranked at all.</p>

<p>I’d put UCLA’s econ department somewhere around the top 10 to 15. Usually top 10, sometimes top 15. It’s not the hottest econometrics in the country, but their macroeconomic theory is quite good.</p>

<p>But if you think that going to Berkeley, Penn, Columbia, Harvard, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Duke, USC, or any other research university is going to keep you from the wild world of theory, you need to get your head out of the sand.</p>

<p>The UCs are, by nature, research universities. Cal States are, by nature, usually not. However, you want a decent metric of how successful top UCs are at getting jobs? PWC and McKinsey recruit at Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, Pomona, USC, and sometimes UCSD.</p>

<p>SDSU is not on that list. That should tell you something.</p>

<p>Either your counselor is a Trojan with a cause or just doesn’t get the distinction.</p>

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<p>Your counselor isn’t very bright. Passing up UCLA to go to CSU would be an awful mistake - I don’t care how much better she thinks their Econ program is (or if she’s right).</p>

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<p>brand_182,</p>

<p>I can assure you and everyone else who reads this thread that she’s not.</p>

<p>UCLA >>>>>>>> CSUs for econ.</p>

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<p>It sounds like your counselor confuses UCLA with CSULA :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>Doesn’t sound like she confused it if she acknowledged UCLA as one of the new ivies. I wonder what kind of experience she had with UCLA to be so against it. Have you talked to other college counselors?</p>

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<p>wow, this is the first time i’ve ever heard someone say the UCLA campus is crime infested and dangerous.</p>

<p>where do they get this stuff from?</p>

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<p>Did your counselor also mention the taser incident? :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>lol I’d understand if she confused UCLA with CSULA… I’ve visited the neighborhood (CSULA) and… yeah… it was quite different from Westwood… O.o</p>

<p>Well safety really isn’t much of issue for me. First of all, I’m no female, so I wouldn’t have to worry about some guy trying to boob-grope me. Plus, I mean as long as I don’t stay out late as 3am I think I can be safe.</p>

<p>But what i’m concerned about is how she just openly attacked the faculty/professors/programs at UCLA, the things I really care about. But again, that counselor really seem to have no idea whatsoever about UCLA’s program. When I told her that I might take the CPA exam, she’s like “why are you going to UCLA then? they don’t even have Accounting major there. You’ll be better off in USC, which has an excellent accounting program, or San Diego State, another great school with business.” So it’s not like she had much credential to believe.</p>

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<p>dhl3,</p>

<p>If it makes you feel any better, I personally know two people who got jobs with PWC after undergrad at UCLA.</p>

<p>Tell that to your ever-so-wonderful counselor.</p>

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:rolleyes:</p>

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<p>UCLAri, now you can say you know (well sort of) 3.</p>

<p>I’ll be starting in September.</p>

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<p>Dustyb20,</p>

<p>Congrats.</p>

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<p>SDSU has the 5th best pass rate in the country on the CPA exam. Your counselor was absolutely correct. If you want to be an accountant, I can assure you SDSU is the place for you. With a CPA- an MBA becomes worthless. UCLA might be a better school if you’d like to get your MBA later in life.</p>

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<p>Why so? I mean, CPA is just a certificate sort of thing, MBA is a degree.</p>