<p>Wait until you move to NJ to change the license. The risk is small. We had people who moved to TN from OR who didn’t change things for years! There is a small risk of getting a ticket, but not a huge one. I was a little obsessive and went right over and got my TN license. Turns out the car insurance companies don’t care where the car is registered or where your license is from- they just want to know where the car “lives”.</p>
<p>LOL poetgrl-- I saw your edited post afteI posted. The only reason I knew this was even an issue was because a former work colleague had this happen to them many moons ago. Don’t recall if they had the ticket dropped after they got the taag/registration/license updated to the current state, but it was a PITA. As for LOM, I agree, if for sure you are moving an a few mos ,it is probably the least of your worries. Also cant advise about taxes, but if you are in NYC you will pay city tax as well as state tax. What state are you officially a resident of? If it a state like Tx you dont have to worry about state taxes. Hard to say if you will have any 2010 taxes to pay in home state if income was earned elsewhere. Dunno about that one. But thats a separate issue from the drivers license one. Agree with all that the risk is small. Not zero, but small.</p>
<p>When I filed 2009 taxes, it was for my on-campus stuff in Philly. I basically started my NYC job a bit after 2010 began, so I will just file New York taxes.</p>
<p>“What state are you officially a resident of?”</p>
<p>I live and work here in NYC</p>
<p>There are lots of grey areas in life and this is one. Believe us, you are not the first to hang on to an old DL. Many people do. (I am not saying this is right, just that it is incredibly common.) Often the issue around the DL and say, insurance, is simply the need to prove you are who you claim to be, when, eg, visiting the doctor. When you I-9 at a job, it is legal to have, as one form of ID, a valid DL (with photo) from any state. </p>
<p>Technically, “ignorance of the law is no excuse.” But, the real concern, in this busy world, is: whether there was intent to defraud- eg, using another state’s license to pretend residency there- to take advantage of lower tax rates, take advantage of some program, etc. Not your case, right? You haven’t done this for gain, just out of misunderstanding-?</p>
<p>You don’t need another distraction to worry about. You have to decide how much this bothers you. If you will sleep better knowing the exact ramifications, you can read the fine print in your insurance policy and/or place an anonymous call to them, asking if it matters for another few months. </p>
<p>You know, what this brings up is that there is much about day-to-day stuff that just doesn’t come easy to you. Since many on CC are very willing to help, maybe it’s good that you post. Around the time of your move, you might post to ask what misc details others think you need to be aware of. </p>
<p>And, remember, Google is your friend.</p>
<p>Yeah I’ve never filed anything on the west coast except for like one summer I worked there – the rest of the time I’ve only filed for the times I’ve worked/lived in Philly. I haven’t bothered to upgrade my DL because there was just no reason to, it seemed – I didn’t drive in college/I don’t drive now… but there is growing concern now with moving/insurance management/filing taxes here in NYC/etc.</p>
<p>And yeah, I do use Google extremely often and usually spend a lot of time calling various services/companies on the phone, but it’s always a pain to go through the automated tellers and so forth only to find that I don’t get the info I really needed. That’s why I usually ask here about certain things instead-- people here seem very knowledgeable and this site has been crucial to me ever since 2004. In my experience, the advice has always been spot-on.</p>
<p>Does your company have an HR dept, LOM?? Maybe they can answer the tax question</p>
<p>NYC generally doesn’t care where you live or where your permanent residence is, if you work in NYC or NY State you pay taxes to them on those wages. I’m a NJ resident that works in NYC. I keep very close track of my travel days, so I can pay NJ taxes (4%) vs NYC/NYS taxes (9%). You don’t have this option if you are a resident, which is defined is you spend 183 nights in NYC/NYS. Derek Jeter ran afoul of this rule, as he claimed residency in another state, but when they looked at his personal agenda, it was determined he spent 50+% of his nights in NYC, so he had to pay NYC taxes on 100% of his income. </p>
<p>I know plenty of co-workers who don’t own cars and still have OOS licenses. The only time I’ve know people get hassled is when they need insurance for a car that they keep here and that ususally happens when they need to register a car. </p>
<p>NJ DMV will just want to see a current driver’s license in order to issue you a new license. Just make sure you have 6 points of ID:</p>
<p>[State</a> of New Jersey - Motor Vehicle Commission](<a href=“http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/6PointID.htm]State”>http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/6PointID.htm)</p>
<p>Where are you moving to in NJ?</p>
<p>As others have said, this is a small issue. Yes, you should change your license, but if you know you are leaving one state for another in a short period of time, waiting until you are in a more permanent situation is not a big deal. Yes, there is a risk, but it is a small one. </p>
<p>My oldest had an OOS license for years, and it was not an issue and he had enough DMV problems to have a designated attorney for his issues. But that was not one of them. Ironically, that is what probably kept him from having more problems than he did since some things did not make it inter state.</p>
<p>nj2011mom: Gf and I were looking into either Jersey City or Hoboken</p>
<p>I have a friend who has lived in Europe for over 30 years, but still comes to California for several weeks a year. Still has a California drivers license, with the address of the elderly parents. When I moved around from state to state in grad school/early career, I always kept my CA license, even though I registered my car in whichever state I lived. In NYC I had no car, but still kept the CA license. After 11 years of moving state to state, I went back to CA, same license. Never had a problem. As far as ID goes, any valid license works, but you may want to get a passport if you don’t already have one. It doesn’t matter where you live for that. </p>
<p>In conclusion, you have plenty of other more pressing issues to attend to. Best wishes.</p>
<p>REALLY GOOD NEWS!</p>
<p>I am so, so, so excited! Through the miracles of networking/negotiation, my insurance will not only cover the cleaning, fillings, and four-impacted-wisdoms operation, but the dentist is waiving the coinsurance! Nothing else out of pocket! The downside is that it’ll essentially use up my insurance for the year, but at $20/month dental premium I <em>sooo</em> do not care at this point! I am bouncing around full of energy right now and I have to keep backspacing over all the typos I am making just trying to write this bloody thing, hahahaha!!</p>
<p>So, so happy for you Max. Sending a motherly hug your way :-)</p>
<p>Awesome!! Don’t you just love this board?</p>
<p>Max, another (((hug))). I’m really, really happy for you. Made my day. I don’t know about Max, but I love this board.</p>
<p>That is absolutely awesome news! Great way to start off your weekend!</p>
<p>Not to interrupt this celebration, but back to the license issue. And this doesn’t apply to LOM, but for future movers to MA… when D1 moved to Boston, she moved to an area that was parking on the street with permit only, for many, many blocks around. In order to get a permit, you had to have Massachusetts plates, and to get MA plates and license (which runs $100!). Of course then your insurance had to transfer to MA, which is much, much higher than Illinois, so D decided having a car wasn’t worth it anymore. </p>
<p>Several months down the road, she did get a MA license because in MA (maybe just Boston area), there are certain places that will not serve you liquor with an out-of-state license if you’re under 25 (like the The Garden if you go to a basketball game). So she spent $100 so she could have a couple of beers at a Celtics game! Of course, even later down the road, when she signed up for zip car, she needed it. But she put it off as long as possible.</p>
<p>Max… Hoboken is a great town to live in for young single professionals…but it is more costly than other areas especially with the temptation to live the single life in the pubs and restaurants that line the Hoboken streets. I am not as familiar with Jersey City but there are some nice areas and some that are still gentrifying. </p>
<p>So happy to hear the good news about your insurance paying for your dental care. Sometimes making a list of the things that you want to address helps in taking care of business that needs to be done. I find that lists help me to stay on task and complete the important things that I need to get done but might let slip by…they serve as my reminder. Now think about going for a physical and some other things that were discussed on this thread. Good luck Max!!!</p>
<p>Agree that Hoboken is pricey and JC has some rough areas. We have a friend that lives in the Heights section of Jersey City. She & her husband are newly married and do pinch pennies, however they wouldn’t give up safety for dirt cheap rent. The Heights section is west of Hoboken - she works at the UN and takes a bus to Port Authority.</p>
<p>Max – I remember being young and broke and having a huge amount of dental work that needed to be done. I’d been to the dentist, he’d told me my wisdom teeth probably weren’t coming in, and they’d be straight if they did. WRONG! MAJOR FAIL! They came in crooked, smashed the teeth next to them, needed to be pulled, required root canals on damaged teeth … etc. Major permanent damage. Thirty years later – I’m fine and cosmetically you would never know.</p>
<p>Sometimes – things just happen. No one is really at fault. You just have to get it fixed. And it’s not fair, but it costs you money through no direct fault of your own – just the teeth with a mind of their own. Glad the insurance and the dentist are working to help you out here.</p>
<p>Yeah we wouldn’t want to give up safety for a lower rent… not worth it. My girlfriend and I are not pub people but we do enjoy going out to eat together, and there seemed to be a lot of cool places in Hoboken, which is why we had looked into it. All I know is that Manhattan is really expensive and I’d rather not pay 1100+ for rent if I can help it.</p>
<p>cnp55: What age were you when you got them removed?</p>