Someone has no idea what they are talking about.
Nope. My kids went to school. No one cancelled classes. That is my point. I remember the day perfectly well. That was a time to be scared. This is a competition. Someone wins and someone loses. Thats how it works. So time for people to grow up and accept the rules of the game. A lot of these college students aren’t even sure why they are upset, other then HRC lost. They couldn’t discuss her policies, if they tried. So the hysterics are silly and immature. I work with a few millennials. Its disturbing how uninformed they are, yet they are depressed. Honestly, it was just another excuse for them to ‘not’ put in full day of work.
I work for a newspaper. The young editors of the paper were allowed to write about their feelings the day after the election, so they can feel better. Wow! As I think about it now, all the Republicans that voted did it in secrecy, right? After all, thats why it was such an upset, right? So I wonder how they were feeling all those months. Since very few pundits saw this outcome, it must mean that these citizens felt suppressed. They felt like they couldn’t voice their feelings without retribution. Yet, they didn’t cry, they didn’t stay home from work or school, they didn’t need time off from work to journalize their feelings. Instead, they went on with their lives and persevered. Amazing how that works!
^Can we take this elsewhere? I’m sure this is the very type of talk that made the OP feel unsupported. No need to hijack her own thread with it.
“Here’s just one reason: because millions of girls and young women, who have either been victims of sexual harassment/assault or have heard horror stories from those who have, will soon have as their president a person who models this abhorrent behavior”
We already have scads of ‘entertainers’ who are called out as models for our children doing a great job of that already and yet somehow these are the people who some of our ‘leaders’ choose to associate with and get backing from - THAT perplexes me.
@Dungareedoll still CANNOT really say it lest be severely ridiculed or of course labeled a bigot or something
Um, there most certainly were things cancelled after 9/11. The NFL rescheduled that week’s games, which is an extremely unusual occurrence.
Schools here (nowhere near the attacks) were not closed but after school activities, including extended day programs, were cancelled on 9/11 for sure and maybe the whole week.
So your experience is the same experience that everyone else had? Seriously, you’re going with a sample size of 1? I’ll tell you, that certainly wasn’t my experience. There were lots of things in my life that were canceled or postponed. For crying out load, the whole airline industry was shut down for several days. I know. I was a thousand miles from home and had to wait it out. Life DID NOT go on as usual, especially if you were in the military or part of a military family. Ask me how I know.
And I’m sure all those millions of girls were cowering in complete fear when President Clinton was president. Or perhaps there’s some double standard where all the women(Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and the list goes on) who accused President Clinton of inappropriate conduct are presumed to be liars and anyone who accuses President-Elect Trump of inappropriate conduct is presumed to be telling the truth?
our snowflakes are in a fragile state of development; the frontal cortex is still developing (responsible for planning, decision making, and inhibiting behavior when processing emotional information); cognitively they are still navigating the grasp of abstract ideas and concepts- and this makes their thinking very idealistic (a real strength IMHO). Then there is the sense of invincibility that they have- that no harm can come to them- what a gift that is because otherwise the world might be so frightening they could be afraid to engage, to step out. Well, recent events have chipped a bit of a hole into this shield of invincibility-- what they though would happen, didn’t; they see friends, relatives or even themselves that are concerned for their safety or their rights. It’s a lot. They’ll get there.
We need to invest time and resources into helping them navigate this… really… we are counting on them. So belittling them isn’t helpful; ignoring their needs doesn’t make those needs go away. When I see students walking out of class I see young people who believe (know) they can make a difference…when I see students crying over election returns, I see students who love the democratic process deeply and feel invested in it. These things give me hope.
I remember many people choosing not to send their kids to school as they were scared about subsequent attacks. (I live in a red town not near the attacks).
“A lot of these college students aren’t even sure why they are upset, other then HRC lost. They couldn’t discuss her policies, if they tried. So the hysterics are silly and immature. I work with a few millennials. Its disturbing how uninformed they are, yet they are depressed. Honestly, it was just another excuse for them to ‘not’ put in full day of work.”
This is extremely condescending. I know TONS of young adults who are extremely well versed on policies and extremely engaged in politics. If you don’t, I suggest you broaden your circle of acquaintances. I think you are hanging with the wrong crowd.
We are about an hour away from the WTC attacks and although schools did not close the next day, there were major changes going on immediately. This was not " business as usual" the next day- not even close.
Colleges didn’t cancel classes.
Losing an election is nothing in comparison to being under physical attack. To equate the two is beyond sad. Young people need to grow up. They are acting as if this is more devastating that 9/11.
Sylvan@ “How would you go about starting to change things when you don’t even know which direction they are or might be going?”
You’re right about that. People are all up in arms and they don’t even know what which direction Trump will take the country. He hasn’t been given a chance to do anything, yet people are already making assumptions and predictions.
As opposed to a president that covered up the much worse sexual harassment/assault of her husband while he was governor/president?
I tell my kids not to be worried about things you cannot control, and concentrate your efforts on things you can control. Following this mantra will save much aggravation and grief in their lives. While we certainly were interested in the election, there was not much joy or angst in our household at the outcome, and that would have been true had it gone the other way.
Lots of NYC things were postponed or cancelled. And my classes were definitely derailed and re-tooled to deal with it. maybe some commenters don’t live so close to NYC. My students had family working in the Towers.
Two things: The Clinton presidency ended 16 years ago, so many of these girls and young women were either not born yet, or blissfully unaware, because of their age, of Clinton’s transgressions, alleged or otherwise. But more importantly, they didn’t hear Clinton, in his own voice, bragging about getting away with sexual assault because he was a celebrity. Why do I presume that Trump’s accusers are telling the truth? Because I heard him bragging about doing exactly what these women say he did. Hello!
I was terrified on and after 9/11.
If you think people are incapable of protesting AND changing things, you are wrong there as well.
Why do protests as long as they are peaceful, which the vast majority have been, scare you all so much? Is it not a constitutional right? Do you believe in the freedom to assemble and protest and constitutional rights?
In my job, I see a lot of kids transition from high school to college. Invariably freshmen experience one of 4 things that present huge challenges: 1) biting off more than they can chew, taking on too much academically 2) break up with significant other from high school sometime during first term , the so called Thanksgiving “dump” 3) catching the flu or mono and physically feel challenged to manage all that’s on their plate and 4) roommate issues, having too high expectations of the roommate or a mismatch.
Transition to college is a huge adjustment. A fifth one I am finding out about is the newly found freedom to abuse alcohol and drugs. My daughter tells me on a regular basis, freshman students are “carried out” on a stretcher and shuttled to the hospital for alcohol poisoning.
It can’t be overstated: do as much as you can to help your student mitigate these challenges. Put together the emergency medical kit for their ready, tell your student that there’s a lot of adjustment living independently, and not to take on too much academically first term, advise students to let significant others and they agree to see other people before trekking off to college, have the discussion that your roommate is not necessarily going to be your best friend, and look for friends in your clubs and classes where you’ll meet others who share the same interests.
Not to take away from anything the OP states here. The best thing is just to love and support your student and empower them to advocate for themselves. Hang in there parents the first semester for all our freshmen is almost under their belts!
@doschicos you are right. I don’t really think of them as snowflakes and I dislike that term. I was using it to make a point.
And @twoinanddone you are correct, my girls are ice, beautiful sparkly ice
@MaineLonghorn I’m so sorry I wasn’t clear enough. No one directly attacked my daughter. I haven’t posted anything specifically about her and her reaction prior to this. I was referring to the general attitudes expressed on this site towards those young people who ARE having a tough time emotionally right now. FWIW I think the moderators here are doing a pretty job job in a difficult situation.
The Billy Bush video is more ambiguous than you let on. One of the key quotes that get’s left out is And when you’re a star, they let you do it,. If someone’s letting you do something, that implies it’s consensual.