My snowflakes melted.

^says the guy who calls himself roethlisburger.

@mom23travelers Wonderful post. I stopped reading all the ones between the original and mine, but I wanted to tell you, wonderful post.

Yeah, just like that young woman in the Stanford rape case, or any other person who is too inebriated to object. I guess they’re consenting, right? You know, because they’re letting it happen.

Seriously, if you have a son, do you tell him it’s ok to grab a woman’s chest or crotch until the person says “no”? After all, until they object, they’re “letting him do it,” and therefore it’s consensual, right?

@mom23travelers, as a mom of two young adult daughters, I know from experience how painful it is to witness the things your children are going through. But it is important (as you realize) for your daughters to learn to survive and thrive in a society in which many people, but women especially, are often harassed and threatened and, when they point out the harassment and threats, are told “it’s all in your head,” or when they feel fear as a result, are mocked for their feelings. It sounds as though you and your daughters are dealing well with these challenges.

I had three children in 3 different schools and no classes were cancelled on the afternoon of 9/11 or the next day–even though some students’ parents worked in the Twin Towers. Certainly on the day of the attack itself it was deemed safer for children to be kept in school, which made sense. However classes went on as usual the next day.

No, it doesn’t.

It means they’re afraid of you. Afraid of what you’ll do if they protest or shove them away. Afraid of other people not believing them. Afraid of being publicly humiliated because others don’t believe them and make fun of them. Afraid of being fired. Afraid of being raped or worse if they refuse the kiss or the grope.

Speaking of 9/11, I was a middle school teacher then and I remember on 9/12 explaining to my students why the passengers and the crew on the airplanes didn’t fight back, At least on the first 3 planes. It was because in all the previous incidents, if the passengers and crew didn’t upset the hijackers, they would eventually be released safely. If they did upset the hijackers, they risked being killed. So they chose passivity in the hopes that it would be over quickly, they won’t be hurt too much and they can return to their normal lives soon- kind of what victims of sexual assault are thinking.

According to an online dictionary one meaning of let is “give permission to.” I don’t know anything about the Stanford rape case, but if you’re making the claim the girl gave the guy permission for everything that happened, then that certainly sounds like consensual.

I suggest educating oneself about the Stanford rape case and learning to identify sarcasm.

OMG.

OP, I sympathize with your Ds, I have plenty of anxiety over D and S, who are making me proud every day. Keep letting them know they are not alone.

@mom23travelers I liked your post. College is about letting your kids go but also being there for them if they need to be picked up. If all goes well, they develop resilience and judgment about what they can handle and who they want to be in the world. Sometimes a bump in the road leads to a new and clearer path. I will remember this post when my own D leaves home next fall.

Let me just say I voted for HC (though unenthusiastically) and was shocked by the outcome. But at the same time, I fault no one who voted for the other side. We had 2 hugely flawed candidates who disenfranchised an awful lot of voters. I empathize with those who fear Trump, but I also empathize with his voters who felt that the economy has left them behind. And I do find it a bit hypocritical, that some of these protests spew so much hate towards the other side, when they are marching to combat hate.