National Merit Cutoff Predictions Class of 2017

@nw2this I sent them an email and they said “Our scholarship is only available to admitted FINALIST who name OU as their college of choice.” My S would love to attend however he can’t unless he gets NMF because of the OOS cost.

@Tgirlfriend

Maybe that policy has changed since my communication with them, sorry to put out outdated information, but I was told that in an e-mail dated December 2015.

@PicoLA The state reports that contained the information about # of students taking the PSAT by state have not been released by the College Board. However, that number doesn’t matter that much for NMSF. The number of NMSF is determined by (# of HS grads in state last year / # of HS grads nationally last year) * 16,000.

Thanks for calling and reporting back @Tgirlfriend. We will therefore stick to our plan not to apply if D doesn’t make NMSF. She will have the essays ready to go just in case, since they have a lot of essays.

@Tgirlfriend My son was commended in Texas this year and he was offered the Award of Excellence (see attached)

https://ou.edu/content/dam/recruitment/scholarships/ScholDescription_15.16_nonres.pdf

You don’t have to be commended to get it, but a commended student is likely to qualify based on their test scores.

Can anyone tell me the last SAT one can take to provide a confirming score? Thanks.

@Tgirlfriend @3scoutsmom
I don’t think it was a policy change. OU said that they had scholarships for non-NMFs (which they do) and some here interpreted that to mean that they had scholarships for NM commended (which they don’t). According to @3scoutsmom, the OU rep said there were scholarships for non-NM, it was @3scoutsmom who guessed that it might refer to commended.
OU DOES have scholarships for non-NMF, but they have nothing to do with NM. You do not have to be NMSF, you do not have to be NM Commended, you do not have to have taken the PSAT at all. Outside of this forum, most of the world does not revolve around NM.
Some of their scholarships are competitive, some are automatic.
Of course, none of them are close to the $124,000 for NMF.
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Can someone point me to the page where the most complete raw-to-scaled score table for the October 14 PSAT was? I know someone was keeping track of the data from posters’ information and made a table, but at this point, I couldn’t begin to guess where that would be in our 348 pages of thread! Or even in the general range - to any of those table drafts - would help immensely. Thanks!

@SFtesttaker last cycle (the only one that I’ve looked at) NM gave a date deadline for submission of the SAT score. You had to make your own decision whether you had faith in CB to get a Dec test score to NM in time. NM strongly advised Nov as the last SAT option.

I don’t think any instructions are available for this cycle yet to compare.

This was for class of 2015, so data from 2 years ago, for what that’s worth.

Take the SAT® and earn scores that confirm your 2013 PSAT/NMSQT performance. You must take (or have taken) a national administration of the SAT between October 2012 and December 2014. Also, it is your responsibility to file a request with the College Board SAT Program to have an official report of your SAT scores sent to NMSC (code 0085). See page 2 of this document for detailed information about authorized SAT administrations and score reporting.

Page 2 just talks about the old scoring, but also warns “We urge you to take the SAT no later than November 8 and not wait until the December administration.”, which seems even more critical with the recent changes.

@Mamelot I haven’t checked on this thread at a while. Your comment about Art recommending to look at the ‘range’ is drawing me in again (darn you). Do most/any people at the bottom number of the Compass range really think there’s a shot? I’ve moved on a long time ago. Too soon?

I’m cautiously optimistic. I’m hoping that if my kid misses, he misses it by 2 points instead of one. There is someone at his school that has the same total score as him, but has 1 point selection index higher (because of the section the wrong answer was in). We will be pretty bummed if that student makes it and he doesn’t. It is what it is…

@gettingschooled …Thank you for the information. I will ask about that with our adviser. Did that help off set the OOS cost? We are just trying to get a degree without tons of debt. These days that seems hard to do.

@StarboardLeeward …thank you. That makes sense to me. I guess I need to reword my question to the adviser. As in…do you have any scholarships for OOS students and leave out the NM part all together. Again, I appreciate all the information.

@2muchquan I apologize for inadvertently using a trigger word w/o warning :-< Hopefully I won’t be sent to some CC “sensitivity training session” LOL.

There is always reason to hope but those at the bottom should probably be expecting Commended. It’s the ones in the middle who are probably bitting a few nails this summer.

Remember, too, that these are just estimates. I have anecdotal evidence from an honest (if not outright reliable) source that Art’s point estimates are right on the money for a few states. I have no way of verifying this information and I will not say anything further about this. Nor am I trying to give everyone some inside information about cut-offs. I just shared in order to explain why I, personally, believe that CompassPrep is the prediction to be looking at. But even assuming that Art nailed a few states, that doesn’t mean he nailed yours or mine.

Again, NMSC most likely would have known the cut-offs awhile ago. They undoubtedly know them by now. Has anyone called them directly about providing a cut-off for your state? While they don’t publish the information, I’m not sure it’s supposed to be a secret.

@Tgirlfriend et al: don’t toss out a school of interest just because you are afraid your kid won’t make NM. Schools tend to find money to attract the talented students. NM is not the only source of funding and not all funding is disclosed, or disclosed in full, on a school’s website. There’s a lot of time between now and when the FA letters arrive!

Would be very surprising to me if NMSC would tell you a state cutoff if you called them directly. But I have never tried.

One more thing to predict: what is the over/under date for when state cutoffs will have been figured out with homeschooler data from people who post here? Letters are mailed out in two weeks. Not sure how much coverage we have in terms of the various states and homeschoolers here.

@mamelot I disagree. For those of us looking for big scholarships (full tuition or full rides), if it’s not on the website, department and other scholarships are low, and scholarships don’t stack, I wouldn’t bother wasting an app fee on a school that won’t get there. Where there is no possibility of need-based aid, hoping and praying for magical money doesn’t make sense to me. I’ve confirmed with OU that there’s nothing close to the NM scholarship and no possibility of stacking anything close. At OK State, it’s possible to get close to/equal the NM package.

@itsgettingreal17 that makes sense. I stand corrected. A full ride more often than not is going to be disclosed on the website. I’m thinking more of amounts that allow OOS students to pay in-state rates. My D2, for instance, was offered an amount at UCF that would have allowed her attend for the in-state amount. Now there were other extenuating factors such as realistically she’d be there 5 years, etc. It wasn’t quite as affordable as you would think just by looking at the scholarship. But, keep in mind that she was a 1960 SAT and a PSAT of 191 - not even close to commended. Her major might have been a factor (NOT engineering or business and it wasn’t a major that was eligible for the Honors College). Still - we were surprised.

(She was also invited to an out-of-state LLC that would have allowed her a single during her freshman year! I really liked UCF!)

I’m tempted to call NMSC on that state cutoff thing, haha. Anyone else interested in working up the courage? :wink: