NC's transgender law violates Civil Rights Act, Justice says

You mean you saw “male danglies”? I hope you didn’t hurt yourself when you fainted.

The US has the crappiest airport bathrooms in the world, and I’ve changed in plenty of them. I do it out in the open bcs I can’t open my rollaboard in a stall ( I can barely even close the stall door w a rollaboard inside).

I land after a long int’l flight and change my top into something climate appropriate. I do it all the time. If u see anyone doing it at the airport bathroom, then you’ll know it’s me.

I can imagine changing in an airport bathroom but only down to my underwear if I wasn’t on a stall. And my underwear is certainly more than a lot of people wear at the beach, so I can’t say I would be too concerned about what people might see.

Boring to say the least.

@LasMa well there goes that theory. I thought maybe there were some cities on the coasts where naked people in bathrooms was just kind of a “thing”

(I’m being completely tongue in cheek just so no one actually thinks I’m serious…)

@DonnaL - I hadn’t seen dangly boy parts bobbing around during a tantrum in a really long time. That was cute. The awful part was that he was barefoot on that nasty floor!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/transgender-bill-trudeau-government-1.3585522

Am very proud of Canada for introducing this legislation.

Looks like boys aren’t too happy either…

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/national-debate-over-transgender-bathrooms-turns-personal-at-rural-vermont-high-school.html

^ Hope it passes this time.

Romani, no nekked people in ladies bathrooms on the east coast either.

Those who support bills like the NC bill have to keep making up more outrageous stuff why there is a need for potty laws as each previous reason gets shot down by sane people.

alwaysmom- if Canada keeps doing things like this we are going to have to build a northern wall. You better be prepared to pay for it.

Quoting for emphasis.

GMTplus7, looks like you’ll have to make sure you never land in Canada during your international travels…

So much misunderstanding and twisting of scriptures in the name of anti-Christian bigotry here… This level of misunderstanding is really awful.

The problem with the bathroom mandate is not just that anyone can come in a regular bathroom with stalls. Nobody really cares about that.

This refers to locker rooms too. That seems disrespectful of the more modest of the other 99% of students that are now forced to be fine with males in the locker room (or females in the male locker room). This is not ok either. Separate rooms are fine. Not even sure if they do group showers anymore, as we were forced to do back in the day, but if they are, those who are uncomfortable with the opposite gender in the room should be respected as well, but instead they are silenced and called bigots by anti-theist bigots. Irony.

This mandate does not protect the interests of anyone but the small minority of those who believe they are a different gender.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201605-title-ix-transgender.pdf

No need for twisting or misunderstanding.

Those who are modest typically aren’t comfortable changing in front of the same gender either. I know I wasn’t. I k ow my kids are not. And that does go for locker rooms as well. One of the most uncomfortable things about the gym we used to go to was the women (of all ages) who walked around casually naked, motioning themselves in the general locker room while naked, drying their hair while standing there naked, etc. I’ve heard it’s worse in the men’s rooms there.
If people want to avoid it they can pressure their gyms to have alternate places for modest people to change where they aren’t uncomfortable. Or they will avert their eyes, be annoyed and continue on their way.

Just a decade ago, similar conversations in many mainstream US areas were occurring regarding LGBTQ rights.

Reminded me of a late night conversation I had with a few colleagues, including one who was otherwise openly religiously conservative making a statement which was completely unexpected: “In a decade or two, we will look upon the arguments against Gay and Lesbian rights in the same way as we now look upon arguments in favor of segregation in the '50s/'60s, bans on interracial marriage, etc…and those making such arguments later finding themselves on the wrong side of history”.

Turns out she even thought the anti-LGBTQ rhetoric by religious/social conservatives and others who harbored anti-LGBTQ prejudices went too far and was ridiculous despite the pronouncements of her religious denomination.

Exactly, cobrat. It’s no accident that trans issues are suddenly coming to the fore. While there are still small pockets of resistance, the gay marriage issue is now settled and largely accepted. So it’s on to something else which will agitate the base.

For what it’s worth, many of the most active and vocal dissenters of this law- both on here and elsewhere- are devout Christians.

Accusations of anti-Christian bigotry are wildly off-base.

Well, except they have exactly zero similarities. One is based on the immutable characteristic of race, the other is based on decisions made.

That just doesn’t fly, and is really offensive to the true civil rights leaders. But then co-opting the civil rights train is always a winner if you can pull it off, which is why so many try.

I think everyone should get a private changing area, personally, but that seems unfeasible in schools. I don’t like to see naked people of either gender parading around.

And it is getting pretty darn old, to reach for the easy “phobic” accusation any time someone expresses anything other than enthusiastic admiration. There is no fear. They aren’t scary. Just do what you want but keep your business to yourself, is more the idea.

@tom1944 Trust me, we may be building it first, depending what happens in November. :wink: