I have narrowed my top two colleges to Arcadia and Buffalo State, even though I got into better schools and even my top school I narrowed it based on how much would have to be paid out of pocket. I live in NYC so I pay instate for Buffalo state and I got into the EOP program there, it’s a program for lower income students that comes with a mandatory summer program. That is the main problem with this school for me because I was planning on working at a really great summer camp this summer so I could have some money and buy a laptop (this is a high paying camp). I know it seems dumb not going to a college because of a summer job but that is really my only problem with the school. This is cheaper than Arcadia but in my opinion Arcadia is a better school. Arcadia is in Pennsylvania and it’s private, they gave me 39,000 in aid but I would still have to pay around 16,000 out of pocket. My mom said that seems doable but I’m not sure. I plan on transferring colleges after one or two years so would the cheaper option just be better
You could call Buffalo State and ask about getting out of summer program. The EOP summer, does it pay you money?
@MaroonDaddy I’m planning on calling them tomorrow, there’s an EOP scholarship but the summer program doesn’t pay. It’s like a program to get you animated to college
Eop summer is mandatory. If you don’t attend, you can’t attend the college where you got EOP.EOP indicates you need a little remediation in one area and your parents don’t know the college environment. It’s designed to ensure you hit the ground running when school starts. Don’t miss the forest for the trees: making money… And taking the huge gamble that you’ll be among the kids who don’t graduate college.
Kids who get EOP need the program. Without it, your odds of success are very low. Each year, kids don’t take that seriously because they’re so sure they don’t need it, and then… Bad news pile up, they don’t know what the resources are, they feel terrible, and give up.
EOP ensures you have the tools to take charge .
I would seriously consider doing EOP summer.
Where else take you been admitted ?
@MYOS1634 The other colleges I got were Penn State, CU Boulder, Hofstra and New Paltz. I applied EOP because that’s what my college advisor told me to apply to. She said get your grades up then transfer because my grades are low because I spent high school literally doing the bare minimum in everything but math and history (until junior year when I had a history teacher who i didn’t like). So basically I asked my teacher how many assignments we were going to have a semester for hw, projects ect. Then I would see how many assugnments i had to do based on their percentage in the overall grade and I would maintain a perfect test score so I could always pass the class. I had a 104 test average in my junior year history class and when I decided to stop doing work in that class I didn’t take two test (it was an act of protest) or do any homework and I managed to get over a 75 in the class. I tutored people in math, science and history and I’ve never needed tutoring because I’ve never had trouble in class knowledge wise I’m just what my teachers call wasted potential. That’s why I didn’t want to apply EOP, because I don’t need the extra help. when I want to do work I do and when I don’t, I dont. I know I can’t maintain this lifestyle in college and still go to the grad school I want and have the career I want which is why I want to get my grades up in college. Most kids in the program are kids who need the academic help.
What was the money for the others PState, CU, Hoftstra?
Penn State would be 20,000 out of pocket, CU 35,000, Hofstra 20,000 @MaroonDaddy
Did you get into Penn State UP or a branch campus? If you can afford the extra $4k, I’d say Penn State UP is worth it over either of the two schools above. If not, I’m not too familiar with Buffalo State but I do know that Arcadia has a very good reputation in the Philly area.
Those numbers are they before any loans? Would your mother have to take out loans for Arcadia?
@cat136 I applied to a branch campus
@MaroonDaddy my mom has really bad credit so I would have to take out loans if anything
Based on what you describe, you’re EXACTLY who EOP is for - kids with potential but bad study habits. Considering how competitive EOP is, no one’s in EOP because they’re dumb. ALL EOP students are smart, and often, really very smart. But circumstances have created obstacles to their success. EOP summer exists to ensure those problems are smoothed out before college starts in earnest.
Also, you’ll need to know all the resources because you’re not used to planning for problems. You haven’t worked consistently, bu when you did, you did very well, so you think that working consistently will suffice. Unfortunately, that’s pretty much a C in college.
EOP will teach you what you need to do to get above and beyond that.
And it’ll show you who to reach out for when you fail (and ALL freshmen “fail” a test. The difference between those for whom it was a bump in the road, and the between those for whom it was a cliff they fell off of, is the difference between those who immediately reach out to the right people, and those who say ‘I’ll do better next test’ or “if I apply myself it’ll get better” or even “that teacher has it in for me, it’s not my fault”. EOP SUmmer teaches you who you can reach out to when that happens, so that it’s just a “bump in the road”.)
If you got EOP at New Paltz, that’s what I would suggest, because it’s better than Buffalo State (unless you mean SUNY Buffalo? → can you specify:
http://suny.buffalostate.edu/
or
http://www.buffalo.edu/
?)
I’m guessing Buffalo State and New Palz are the cheapest?
What’s the net price at Arcadia?
Well if you go to Buffalo State you can ask your mother to buy you a laptop and give you some weekly spending money. She will still be way ahead. It looked OK facility wise. I assume you would be living on campus, which would help. Arcadia looks good too. You have to play the game to transfer to better schools and get the good grades all semester. You are the only will that will notice that you took a moral stand.
Don’t you need to reply today?
It’s SUNY buffalo state
New Palz money?
@MaroonDaddy yeah I have to decide today for Arcadia but I have longer to reply to buffalo because they sent me the acceptance a couple of days ago
I would avoid an borrowing outside of the $5000 through the school. Which may already be part of the financial aid packages. Private lenders are bad.
@MaroonDaddy all of my packages include the federal subsidized and unsubsidized loans. I don’t want to take out a lot of loans because I plan on going to graduate school