@TonyGrace Thanks for your precise feedback,a always.
@superdomestique: D24 finalized her college list months ago, she’s content with her strategy, and reasonably confident she will suit up in college.
Thanks for your information and support.
PS: we’ll reopen the other thread in due course
Don’t you mean bundle up?
She hasn’t received any acceptance letter yet, but will announce in due course. Her schedule of acceptance is technically open from December to June due to the progressive schedule of Canadian acceptances. Probability says she will likely be near snow and bundle up to attend morning training.
We were very superstitious and called it decision schedule. I admire your optimism.
But if accepted ED 2 she has to withdraw all other aps, correct? So if she ED2’d to a nescac then she would be done and those results will be out mid feb. So regardless of other applications if she has a positive pre read and coach supported verbal commitment in ED2 at a nescac then she will likely be done in feb, so only the possible Jan McGill acceptance could effect that result…unless she is applying unhooked without support at an ED2 nescac, then odds as an international are much lower and this conversation about athletic admissions is not really relevant
McGill/Toronto could admit January onward, Nescac & UVA mid Feb, all others in March.
Maybe I’m wrong…but my understanding is that if your daughter gets accepted ED2 to her ED2 choice…this is a binding acceptance and that’s where she will be attending college…even IF she gets an offer to swim elsewhere later.
@cinnamon1212 is some exception made to the ED agreement for potential athletes?
Yes, ED is ED. If she’s accepted ED2, she must withdraw all RD applications and decline any acceptances she already has. It doesn’t matter if you’re an athlete or not. Those are the rules!
so McGill and the nescac are the only swimming options at this point, correct? is there any reason why she didn’t hear from McGill in December? i thought McGill was the safety…does she have an offer to swim there? uva is an ea application without nli or preferred walk-on offer. nescac is either tufts or Wesleyan since they offer ed2. did she end up with a preread at Wesleyan with the new coach? did she get an offer of support for ed2? the other apps are the UCs and Toronto correct? and some d1 RD applications that are unhooked without swimming options, correct?
It would appear the only offer for swimming is possibly wesleyan, i wish her the best, but i will be honest your strategy and questions are confusing, especially at this late point. if swimming is a priority, I would highly suggest she reach back out to the schools that did full coach supported pre reads and see if an offer still exists and try to get apps in there, if possible.
Not cinnamon but yes, ED2 is still binding and other apps will need to be withdrawn. There is no special exception for athletes when it comes to ED.
Please do not turn this thread into a post about a single CCer’s child. There is a thread about that which will be reopened in Feb. Feel free to read it and get yourself caught up. Swimming Recruiting for Int’l Jr. Targeting Highly Selective Colleges
This thread is for all parents and students interested in NESCAC recruiting. If posts focus too much on one person, they will be hidden or edited. Thanks for your cooperation.
I can speak for D, a freshman athlete at a NESCAC. The coach linked up the incoming recruits in the Spring (Team Zoom meeting in late Spring) and they communicated all summer in a group text, etc. They were given a specific fitness and lifting packet in late spring, which they completed all summer with fitness test to be given when they were all there. They arrived on campus a week before other students. Yes, of course, they’re shown the facilities (locker room, weight/fitness room, etc.). The workouts, etc. will all be lead by coaches, school athletic trainers, etc. I’m guessing all the NESCACs are similar with this.
EDITED TO ADD- This is for a fall sport. Athletes in non-fall sports, may not arrive earlier. Your athlete should direct specific questions to the coach.
Can you share the sport? I imagine it is a fall sport. The question may be general but OP is interested in swimming specifically. Captains practices only until late October.
Agree, this sounds like a fall sport.
Yes, fall sport. Edited my post above.
Are prereads August 1 again this year or was that a one time thing last year?
I would imagine they are back to July 1 as the Aug date was only because of the USSC case; but, as my child is now a senior, I can’t say that for sure. The coach should be able to tell your child, though it may be a bit early for prereads to be discussed (or maybe not…sports don’t all run on the same timeline).
I have a freshman at a NESCAC and I haven’t heard either, however, my guess is it’s back to 7/1/24. I’d definitely have your athlete ask the coaches they’re in contact with. It is definitely not too early to discuss pre-reads with the coaches, if they haven’t already. They will likely gather the info. sometime between late Spring and June.
This July 1 / August 1 thing is making me nuts! I thought we’d hear a definitive answer on a visit last weekend, but no. Sounds like coaches from top programs are going to take their time, and that there is still a lot of decision making when they watch kids in June. Spring and June still really matter. (And omg i hope with all my heart we are not still plugging away at this in July. July events are good for no one!)
On January phone calls, several NESCAC coaches said they were pretty sure they were going back to July 1st, but it wasn’t official yet. I feel like some coaches want to stall because the pool widens as kids give up D1 ambitions and start thinking NESCAC/D3.
I have a lot of questions about super high-academic D3 recruiting! I’m never sure if I should start another thread or not. Mostly, I wish we knew more about timing of prereads and offers. I know for nescacs, there’s no “committing to the process” before the official date. But does admissions review the material from the coach prior to that day? A parent told me preread process started no sooner than Aug 1 last summer, and also that 48 hours later the whole recruiting class was set. That doesn’t add up to me. Plus, coaches have been seeing the transcripts and scores (unofficial versions) all year long.
School coach and college counselor both think the process will move very quickly in early June, no matter what the official date is.
They both think that we or coach (club or school) will have a good idea about level of interest before the actual pre-read date. I think that assumes that the recruit is very high up on the board. I’m less sure. As I said above, I think those first few weeks in June could still impact that, especially if it’s a player who’s solidly in the mix but maybe not tippy top of the list.
School coach has more familiarity with how things work for D1 after Sept. 1, but college counselor sees a lot of student athletes go to small D3’s, though never NESCAC in this sport that heavily relies on summer recruiting events.
What if the top choice schools are one or two NESCAC and one from another conference, where they can make an early offer? The non-nescac kind of indicated that they want to take advantage of their ability to do that.
No. Not until July 1 (Or Aug 1). But the coach may collect the info before then.
I’m sure this happened for some teams, but not others (probably not most).
Of course they do…they want to lock up their recruits. I expect NESCAC will go back to July 1. I know many coaches think they are mostly competing against other NESCACs so some don’t worry about this, but I tend to disagree with that (at least for many sports).
If you think you will have a lot of questions and/or will want to provide regular updates, you should start a new thread.