NESCAC Spoken Here:

They both had the same record, but Midd was the only team to beat Trinity, so I think they deserve the crown.

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Tough year for Bates - 0-9!

You need a new football coach @Lindagaf !!!

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The mascots fought it out, and the panther defeated the bantam by split decision.

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Sometimes a new uniform will help lift a team’s spirits and fortunes.

So – if Middlebury can copy the Michigan helmet, I see nothing wrong with Bates copying the Clemson helmet (cat paw logo…)… in maroon and white. That could look really sharp.

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Of all the NESCAC football teams, Middlebury’s helmets have been the most consistent over the years.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/nescac.htm

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It’s my favorite design in all of footballdom.

Three grandparents went to U of Wisconsin, as well as both of my parents. So when my dad and his dad took me to the Michigan game when I was about four years old, they and surrounding Badger fans were shocked and a bit miffed (especially the drunk ones…) when I cheered for Michigan. The reason? I loved their helmets. lol

This is pretty fun, too. Remember that time Middlebury played Penn State, just before Penn State played their first Rose Bowl?

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That reminds me of Wesleyan University 's unbroken winning streak against the University of Michigan:
Wesleyan University Football History vs University of Michigan

I wasn’t around, but if their school colors were inelastic, it might have been hard to tell them apart. Like when my Badgers play Nebraska – i have to look at the helmets.

But Penn State (to novitiates, NOT the University of Pennsylvania. Preaching to the choir, but just in case…) in its very early days of Rugby plus tackling the head (which rugby does not allow – right players think they’re so tough, but when you smack them in the head they cry. So, cry. Our football is a collision sport, and yeah, we take each other’s heads off figuratively. If you can’t handle that, kiwis and springboks and wallabys and england roses et al, well, keep thinking you’re tough. lol. I’ll punch you in the face and you’ll cry, ā€œsin bin!ā€ Pushies.) – well that was a departure, but I continue: waaaaaay back in the day, probably before JoePa was born, Penn state’s colors were BLACK and PINk.

so yeah, if PSU (not Ben Franklin’s Quakers… the Nits) had played Midd a hundred years ago… they would have been easily known.

I’m pretty drunk, but i’m at home and i’m safe. not going anywhere. Usually when i post i am sober as a judge, at work. Anyway, i love you all. Happy thanksgiving. be well and happy.

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Much as i love Wes, nobody we know was alive when that footballic travesty pasó.

We luv u2, prezbucky.:blush: Happy Thanksgiving!

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Happy Thanksgiving @prezbucky . You’re one of the very best here.

And the same to all the rest of you.

PS: my wife LOVES not only Michigan’s helmets, but their entire uniform as well.

I’ll take my helmets gold with a block purple W on the side, thank you very much!

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Couldn’t help but going down Memory Lane and came across a thread you started in 2012 containing this howler from a Princeton alum:

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Hahahaha! Enjoy rereading your post in the daylight. I recommend a side of ibuprofen with your breakfast.

Meanwhile, back in the NESCAC…

@cquin85 Bates seems to have a less than stellar football record most years. I’m not sure why they bother, tbh. But I remember once hearing it’s to keep the alumni happy. If so, they are perhaps not accomplishing that goal.:laughing:

A Trinity Student Was Among the Wounded:
Burlington, Vermont, shooting live updates: Three Palestinian college students shot on their way to dinner (nbcnews.com)

A NESCAC president was at their best on CNN this morning. Where else would you find a humanities class delving into Freud’s ā€œCivilization and its Discontentsā€ as a way of framing the Israel/Hamas war?

I will return with a link to the transcript as soon as it becomes available.
ETA:

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Btw, is anyone else as sick as I am of hearing Amherst, Williams, Pomona and Swarthmore referred to as the WASP colleges? Does this not strike anyone else as faintly antisemitic? I’m serious.

I have always assumed ā€œthe jokeā€ was on the colleges for their long periods of exclusionary policies. It may not be a very kind joke, but I have never thought it was intended to actually be nostalgic for those policies.

By analogy, when people include Middlebury and call it SWAMP, I don’t think the intention is to suggest it would be good for a SLAC to be located in a swamp. I think the intention is to poke a bit of fun at the colleges and their pretensions.

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Pomona has a long history of exclusionary policies? Swarthmore? Would you care to elaborate?

I don’t really know much about Pomona’s history to be frank. It is outside of my normal geographic range.

Swarthmore was not integrated until 1943, and for quite a while after that was still not known to be particularly welcoming to black students. Some of that is actually documented on their website, such as here:

Before that there were also various forms of religious-based exclusion, including in the Greek system, which actually led to the banning of sororities (but of course not fraternities) in 1933. Again, this is from their website:

But I wish to make something very clear. My point was not to suggest the ā€œWASPā€ joke is necessarily all that well-reasoned, or that everyone who makes it actually knows about these sorts of details in the history of Swarthmore or other colleges.

My point was just that I don’t think it is intended to be in favor of exclusion of people of color and Jews and Catholics and so on. It is intended to be derisive of that sort of exclusion. And to the extent you want to dispute the propriety of the joke as applied to any given college, that is fine, but that isn’t contradicting this evaluation of the intention of the joke.

Edit: Because I was curious, I dug up some information on people of color at the Claremont Colleges, if others are interested: