New 3.0 to 3.3 (GPA) Parents Thread

<p>Urban campus still accepting applications - Univ of Cincinnati.</p>

<p>Deadline is past for their most competitive programs (Engineering, Design and Music/arts), but still open for their other schools.</p>

<p>Not on the radar of most east coast people…but…if a kid wants City, big time sports, and a diverse student body – it’s worth a look.</p>

<p>After all the good news that was coming, sorry to see that some are having disheartening news-</p>

<p>S is happy with where he is going, but it was not his first choice. He received a 5K grant to Drexel and was waitlisted at Northeastern. If either of these schools had accepted him with $$$merit, he would have gone in a heartbeat.</p>

<p>Luckily plan B worked out for us, otherwise S would be pretty sad right now. I hope one of the less desired schools will be a realistic option for your kids, or a late application somewhere else if you think that’s what you need. </p>

<p>Another option might be to start at one school and transfer after a year? S was prepared to do that if our plan B had not worked out.</p>

<p>Good luck to you, I am hoping good things for you-</p>

<p>Edit: urban school recommendation - University of Hartford (though might be suburban) - was recommended to us by a CC parent, rolling admissions, $$merit.</p>

<p>Got an email today from Susquehanna Univ that they are still accepting applications. My D is accepted there and we are going to accepted students day on March 27th. Its no. 112 on US News and World Report rankings of LAC’s.</p>

<p>ctmom2boys
Well, I feel for you. Its a hard thing to see when our kids are hurting. (here comes the but) As I see it, You applied for 8 schools, BC, Prov, Loyola, UVM +4 others that you described as targets. Given his acceptance at UVM and his rejection at Loyola I would say you probably did not have enough safeties. I know that seems painfully obvious now, but here is some advice. Talk about the next step with your son. Make him be a part of the decision as well as discussing what went wrong. You might find that after a few days he will start to explore the “options” (of which there are many) First, UMV and Providence IMO are on the same footing so don’t be surprised if he is accepted… Second, if he really wants to go to Loyola then make plans to see what about next year. (I know thats not want I would want to do but he might) Discuss plans and options. Once he and you accept where you are then get back at it and look at all the school still accepting apps. (there are a lot of great schools doing so) Remind him that he must own this as well as you and your husband and get him to see the options (read other schools still accepting apps) Because he has a great school in his pocket already(UVM) then all the other new schools get compared to it. That makes it be the school to beat and I bet he will start to fall for it. (It really is a great school) Stop bribing him with the stuff! He must decide its his school. In fact if you suggest serious looks at the other schools he just might start to defend UVM! In any event he will decide what the next best step is. Has he ever been on Church street in the spring or summer? Also, while I dont mean to knock Loyola, IMO UVM is a better choice. school spirit, skiing, academics, Med school, many many great things.
My point is, he never should have been sleeping in his Loyola tee shirt because in todays crazy admission world a lot can go wrong. But instead of telling him not to worry, Get him to speak with you about options. There are many. In a sense, develop a list of new safeties, culled from your current research. And even if he goes to UVM (or Providence) he will do so happily because it was his choice after weighing the options.
Hope it all works out, I know with so much parental support I will be surprised if he isnt a happy freshman next fall!</p>

<p>My son is a sophomore at Susquehanna and likes it there. Despite having a GPA in high school of somewhat less than 3.0, he has done well in college, making the dean’s list each semester. They even gave him a small merit scholarship. College Navigator reports that they give aid of some sort to 99% of their students, with institutional grants going to 98% - see [College</a> Navigator - Susquehanna University](<a href=“College Navigator - Search Results”>College Navigator - Susquehanna University) and realize that almost nobody pays list price there.</p>

<p>He was also accepted at Hartwick and would have gladly gone there had the acceptance from Susquehanna not come through. The opportunity to live out at Pine Lake after freshman year was of particular interest. I think these are two schools worth checking out for those on this thread.</p>

<p>JFL, Yes, it’s painfully obvious that we didn’t apply to enough safety schools…although he also got into Bryant with a merit scholarship.</p>

<p>He was waitlisted at PC, and we’re hopeful that he’ll still get in. Their waitlist is realistic (unlike Loyola’s), and they gave us indications that if he maintains interest and sends another recommendation and 3rd quarter grades, that he’ll get in.</p>

<p>Regardless, I just found out that PCls tuition jumped 5K from last year to almost 50K all in, so it will be much more expensive than UVM…I wish he was happy about going to UVM, as I’m not convinced that PC is worth the extra tuition.</p>

<p>There is always lots of discussion on CC about what is a safety. But…most lists and discussions agree that 2 is enough. Admission to 2 colleges should mean that there were enough safety schools on a child’s list - if the safeties are financial safeties for a given family, and are schools a child will attend willingly and somewhat enthusiastically (even if not as enthusiastically as their top choice school.) </p>

<p>If the schools aren’t financially viable, or a child doesn’t want to go to the school, they aren’t safeties.</p>

<p>With limited time resources that many of our kids have in Junior and Senior year, as well as limited time and money resources that parents have, some on this site advise spending most of the college search effort in defining and finding safeties. That way your kid (and their parents) is much more sure of having options they’re happy with in the Spring. I think that is the “lesson” that has been reinforced to me by some of the recent posts on this thread. </p>

<p>Also…unless there is a dramatic change in family situation (loss of job, illness, etc.), it seems unfair to our kids to change parameters mid-stream. If there was no condition set of financial aid at the beginning of the college admissions process, and the difference in UVM and Providence were OK when applications were submitted, shouldn’t they stll be OK now? (UVM tuition is probably up from last year, too…so…the difference for the two schools may be the same as it was before…both may be more expensive!)</p>

<p>ctmom2boys – I hope you won’t take this post as personally critical. For those of us lurking on this thread with similar kids coming up in the process, all of the posts have been very helpful.</p>

<p>2sima,</p>

<p>I didn’t take your post as criticism at all. Actually, UVM tuition went up only marginally, PC’s went up more than 10% over last year.</p>

<p>Regardless, we would pay any tuition, it’s more a question of value. I’m simply wondering if PC is worth an additional 9 or 10K over UVM.</p>

<p>If my son got into his dream school, Boston College, which is over 53K, we would gladly pay the tuition, because we think it’s worth it (inasmuch as any school is worth the tuition they charge).</p>

<p>ctmom2boys, if it helps at all I know several people with kids at UVM and they all love it. My husband has worked with UVM’s administration for business, and he has a lot of respect for how they run the Univ. One of our school secretaries’ daughters is at UVM, she went there because it was her “only option,” which I’m assuming means it was her safety school and she was rejected from her other choices. She wasn’t happy about going there, but once she got there she fell in love with it and has had a great experience. I’ve heard that from other people as well - a lot of students use UVM as a safety, go there reluctantly, and end up very happy there. Burlington is a great college town. Perhaps your son will have the same experience.</p>

<p>Ctmom, given your son’s admission to UVM, a fine option, I do not think you need to beat yourself up for not finding more safeties. It sounds like more a matter of your son changing his mind on you (so far), which may just be nerves, or understandable depression on both your parts at his not getting his top choice, or just teenage unpredictability.</p>

<p>As for how many safeties is the right number, I think it depends in part on whether the goal is to obtain merit money. As those awards tend to come from safeties, rather than matches, parents seeking merit money might well choose to apply to 4 or more safeties, because amounts vary greatly and unpredictably from school to school. </p>

<p>If merit is not the goal, I think 3 is a prudent minimum number of safeties, just because the process can be irrational (and kids can change their minds) and relying on 1 or 2 safeties is therefore risky. You simply never know when an admissions officer dislikes your high school; or an interview went sour without your child realizing it; or lots of kids from your HS use the same safety and they have a ceiling on how many to take; or your child hears from a trusted source in April that “____ College is horrible” and refuses to go there.</p>

<p>Thanks, ClarkAlum,</p>

<p>Still no word from Clark. Not feeling that is a good thing, and since the folks that have heard are the ones with scholarships, it also does not bode well. I’m keeping an even keel and my son is very, very quiet. The UVM waitlisting really put a damper on 6/6 admissions, especially now that Clark is the only ‘hold out’, and where he thinks he’d be most happy. [city, close to home, great programs]
We’ll see how it goes. The mail will bring news this week and we’ll at least have some closure on this part of the process. Starting next weekend it’s all about Accepted Student Days. Of course, with financial aid packages in hand, the schools look a wee bit different the second time around! :wink:
CCL</p>

<p>CTMom2 ---- we moms are fiercely protective of our kids, and we know that grades do not tell the entire story. I am sorry.</p>

<p>It is hard to see rejections for your kids (my DS1 ended up at his safety and DS2 is part of the 2011 cohort yet to come). I remember reading last year when DS1 was in the middle of all the rejections some posts that said ‘it all works out’ and I do believe that it does, but it is a bitter pill at the time. </p>

<p>And, FWIW, I still toss the requests for donations from DH’s undergrad, a place that Deferred ED DS1, and then denied him in the spring, but accepted two other applicants from DS’s HS, one with a decidedly easier courseload and lower GPA than my DS. About the other rejections, DS moved on, but that one, it still stings. He visited that school to see a friend of his that attends, met other students, and still wonders why the rejection. Particularly, in favor of the other applicants, both of whom eventually turned down the school…it simply does not always make sense…</p>

<p>ctmom In my mind I keep coming back to the fact that he didn’t have an official visit at UVM. I know nothing about the school but do know that when my D was WLed last year at her #1 choice, attending the overnight for accepted students at her #2 helped her to start to love that campus.</p>

<p>That would be my next step I think, to help the kid fall for UVM. Once he gives it a chance maybe you all can see if Providence is worth it. In the end that’s a choice you have to make as a family but an official visit to UVM is a must.</p>

<p>I agree History mom, I’m trying to get that visit in ASAP, but it’s tough now that varsity baseball started up, S insists he can’t miss even a practice…I’m going to talk to the coach and let him know how important it is that S takes a day off to visit.</p>

<p>It’s not like he’s going anywhere on an athletic scholarship. This will likely be the last year he even plays ball.</p>

<p>OK, I can “quit any time I want.” I put the thick envelope from “Admissions and Financial Aid Office” on my child’s bed and walked away! No steaming, no gluing, no pasting, no looking for a nail file. (perfect tool to get under the flap) I am so proud of myself! LOL… You would think I was a candidate for AA or something!</p>

<p>@ ctmom2boys
In my earlier post I suggested that your son “own” this decision as well as you and seek solutions together. Your report of not missing baseball practice at the expense of a college visit suggests to me a strong amount of immaturity with regard to dealing with this issue and I am afraid that no counsel or advice is going to overcome that. So at the risk of being a bit repetitive, I ask What does he think about his situation and what does he think he should do about it. I suspect that after an honest conversation answers will reveal themselves and direction will be much easier to ascertain. (And while we try so hard to steer our kids in the "right"direction, at the age of 18 they do have a meaningful voice in the process)</p>

<p>

We are going through some similar things with our son on the music front–this time of year is crowded with concerts, competitions etc. that will make it tricky to schedule visits or even to find time to have family discussions about the whole business. </p>

<p>But you know what? The fact that our kids are not comfortable with back-burnering their EC commitments just because they will soon be leaving them behind speaks very well of them. I wouldn’t want it any other way.</p>

<p>SLUMOM: Proud of you! :D</p>

<p>jfl2010 I think that ctmom’s S not wanting to miss bball practice is not a sign of a “vast amount of immaturity” Is it immature? In an adult’s eyes perhaps, but it could also NOT be an avoidance tactic at all. Instead it could be a sign that this is a young man who doesn’t want to let his teammates down by missing practice and perhaps a game because of it.</p>

<p>This is a kid who was recently disappointed and it takes some longer to heal than others. Yes he does need to face the music but I think it’s OK to indulge him for a few more days.</p>

<p>“We’ll see how it goes. The mail will bring news this week and we’ll at least have some closure on this part of the process. Starting next weekend it’s all about Accepted Student Days. Of course, with financial aid packages in hand, the schools look a wee bit different the second time around!”</p>

<p>CCL–Good luck with Clark–fingers crossed.</p>

<p>"In my earlier post I suggested that your son “own” this decision as well as you and seek solutions together. Your report of not missing baseball practice at the expense of a college visit suggests to me a strong amount of immaturity with regard to dealing with this issue and I am afraid that no counsel or advice is going to overcome that. "</p>

<p>Actually, I couldn’t disagree more. I see his reluctance to miss baseball practice as a sign of maturity and responsibility. We have always stressed to our children the importance of honoring commitments, and that is why we have children who have never missed or been late to a game, practice, appointment or work.</p>

<p>What’s he going to do about it? Naturally he’s choosing between the 2 safety schools and will deposit with one of them, of course. What else can he do? I don’t think I gave the impression that he was going to refuse to go anywhere if he couldn’t get into his top choices, because that couldn’t be further from the reality.</p>

<p>He also is getting recommendations from additional teachers, his boss where he works and plans to write another short essay and send these to the WL schools.</p>

<p>Nightchef I agree with you…it’s kind of unfortunate that some people view honoring prior commitments as a sign of immaturity. That’s the last thing I view it as a sign of.</p>

<p>P.S…he won’t be 18 for quite some time. ;)</p>