New Details in the Zimmerman-Martin Controversy

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<p>Well I, for one, am very interested in hearing what this possible “conflict of interest” might be. Might it have anything to do with a connection to George Zimmerman’s father, the retired judge?</p>

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<p>Indeed. If anything, there appears to have been a concerted effort to impede the collecting of any evidence that might reflect poorly upon Mr. Zimmerman by the Sanford PD.</p>

<p>Disregarding this stupid law of standing your ground, which I had no idea about until we discussed it in English class, the fact is this: Zimmerman had a handgun and Trayvon had skittles. No matter how good of a Karate master this kid was, or whatever Zimmerman is claiming, this does not warrant killing the other person. I’m no FBI agent, but after watching this video, it doesn’t really seem like Zimmerman is beat up at all. Since the police reports say he had a broken noce and the back of his neck was bleeding, I would say those were self contrived. If they had gotten into a serious altercation, he would show signs of damage all over, not just a broken nose and a gash on the back of his neck. In addition, Zimmerman had called the police 46 times int he previous month. This portrays him as a bored security guard. I’m not saying this is what happened, but I think Zimmerman tried to play up his image, stop Trayvon while on guard duty, pretending that he was some important police officer, and then Trayvon realized this guy was crazy. There was an attempted altercation, but Zimmerman freaked out and shot. The again, looking at the police footage, Zimmerman doesn’t seem to care at all at what had happened.</p>

<p>I’m not sure any of that made sense, but those are my thoughts at 1 in the morning.</p>

<p>In the video, Zimmerman is wearing a red jacket. I’m assuming it’s the same red jacket he was described as wearing by witnesses.</p>

<p>He said he was on the ground and Martin was on top of him, banging his head onto the ground, when he shot Martin. So he shot Martin from about two feet away. How, then , did he avoid being covered with Martin’s blood? He didn’t have any visible broken nose, he didn’t have any visible bruises on the back of his head, he had no bruises on his face, and his jacket wasn’t covered with blood.</p>

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<p>I know…this is really weird.</p>

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<p>Another thing pointed out tonight on O’Donnell’s show is that when the one cop checks Z’s jacket – checks inside the jacket, goes through the pockets, does something to the back of the jacket – he wasn’t wearing gloves, which contaminated the jacket.</p>

<p>Now Zimmerman’s father is on TV saying that Trayvon told Zimmerman, “You’re going to die tonight” – AFTER Trayvon sees the gun. Because Z would have us believe that Trayvon thought his bag a Skittles was a match for a gun. </p>

<p>Oddly, this threat is not in the police report, meaning that Zimmerman didn’t see fit to mention it at the time of the incident. I guess he thought it wasn’t relevant to his claim of self-defense?</p>

<p>A lot of things simply aren’t adding up: If Trayvon Martin punched George Zimmerman in the face, thereby breaking his nose, why does that same nose appear so unmolested in the surveillance video of Zimmerman at the police station? Why is it not swollen or bruised, as a nose would logically appear in the wake of such an assault? Noses bleed profusely when punched or broken. Why was his shirt not covered in blood? If Trayvon repeatedly bashed Zimmerman’s head against the sidewalk, as Zimmerman claimed he did, why does his nearly balk head look so unremarkable in the surveillance video? Even if he was medically treated or “cleaned up” at the scene of the shooting, that kind of a beating should logically show at least some signs of an open wound or contusion. Where are the bandages? And if there had been a “life or death struggle,” why is George Zimmerman’s shirt so neatly tucked in, with no evidence of mud or grass stains anywhere on his person? If George Zimmerman struggled with Trayvon Martin for his gun, and George ended up shooting the boy at close range, why is there not the slightest splatter of Trayvon’s blood on Zimmerman’s clothing?</p>

<p>FINALLY, an unbiased viewpoint based on FACTS:</p>

<p>Robert Zimmerman said his son is having a hard time dealing with the criticism.
“I never foresaw so much hate coming from the president, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP. Every organization imaginable is trying to get notoriety or profit from this in some way,” Robert Zimmerman told WOFL. “But there’s so much hate that I have never been involved in hate and George hasn’t. It’s really unbelievable.”</p>

<p>[Zimmerman’s</a> father says Trayvon Martin threatened to kill his son - CNN.com](<a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/29/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c1]Zimmerman’s”>http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/29/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)</p>

<p>liberal press loves to play the race card and their audience eats it up. Has anyone contemplated that maybe Zimmerman, being the neighborhood watch dog would have behaved the same to anyone in the area wearing a hoodie? </p>

<p>Again, black on black, white on white, Hispanic on black, black on Hispanic…and we don’t hear of this story. </p>

<p>…and I guess some hear didn’t learn a thing from the Duke case.</p>

<p>If i was a juror, the video of Zimmerman at the police station would be proof enough for me to completely discount his story. No blood, no signs of the injuries he claims he sustained in a fight, no signs that his nose is broken, no signs of pain in his movements. He moves and walks calmly, swiftly, and, as was stated in the CNN article posted above, with grace. His shirt is neatly tucked in, his clothes apear to be clean. There should be blood on his clothes. Either his own blood from the broken nose, or Trayvon’s blood from shooting him at close range. Even if the police gave him a clean shirt, his jacket should look disheveled and probably bloody.</p>

<p>geeps, the Duke case was he said she said, no objective evidence of a crime, and with an overlay of prosecutorial over-reach. This is a case where there is quite a lot of objective evidence, including a dead body, and a distinct lack of prosecutorial anything. </p>

<p>You’re absolutely right that the Duke case’s lesson was you can’t always believe everything you hear, including everything you hear from the authorities. Maybe that is the lesson people are applying to this case.</p>

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<p>The government, colleges, workplaces, etc., draw a distinction between white, black and hispanic because hispanic is viewed as a minority that is sometimes discrimated against. They’re not making a scientific analysis. Hispanics from certain countries often have some native American background, sometimes not.</p>

<p>Let me ask you this: take a look at Marco Rubio, with his creamy white skin. He’s hispanic. Is he “mixed race” ? Is he black? Or would you, just perhaps, say he is white AND hispanic?</p>

<p>My daughter’s boyfriend is white/hispanic (I only know this because he makes jokes about it, sometimes). He looks more white than my brother and we are of German/dutch descent.</p>

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<p>For me, Geeps, the point isn’t really even about Zimmerman. There are nutjobs everywhere. This guy was, against what he was told to do, following some kid in the rain. At some point, before the fight, he got the gun out and got the safety off the gun-- which, I’m sure you know is harder to do in the middle of a fight than it looks in the movies. I disregard him. I think of him as a nut.</p>

<p>But the laws are in place to protect us from this kind of cowardly blowhard, racist or not. The fact that there was no investigation, that this guy was carrying a gun to begin with, the fact that the forensic evidence was not collected, but above all, the fact that a dead young man’s parent’s were not called, tells me we are looking at systemic racism. </p>

<p>One guy is a criminal. An entire legal system? That is just horrifying.</p>

<p>^ My point exactly. There will always be differing interpretations. That’s why you have an investigation. In our society it’s the Police who are tasked with doing that investigation, and the District Attorney who is tasked with deciding if results of the investigation warrant prosecution. Since there was no investigation worthy of the name, we get … this.</p>

<p>Is Zimmerman a nut job? Do you want him roaming your neighborhood … with a gun … comfortable using it against an unarmed teenager … confident that the next arrest (which would be arrest #5 if you count this incident, #4 if you don’t) will be essentially forgiven like all previous ones?</p>

<p>So when Rev Jesse Jackson goes on one of his rants claiming that white America is against “Browns”, is he only talking about darker skinned people from latino countries and lighter skin doesn’t count?</p>

<p>As for the Zimmerman case. I cannot believe any law enforcement agency is this messed up…there has to be something major they are not telling us.</p>

<p>Just saw pictures of Zimmerman being taken into the police station. There is not scratch on him. Either he is a miraculous healer or he’s lying about being punched/head “smashed”. I know which one I think it is.</p>

<p>He holds his head down in the video. People with broken noses hold their heads up to minimize throbbing. I hope we hear less and less about what George and his father have to say. They are obviously not telling the truth.</p>

<p>And the idea that the police did not notify the parents for days - how can that be legal?</p>

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<p>A few years ago, I fell going after a tennis ball that I shouldn’t have gone after at my age. I went into the bathroom and cleaned up the cuts and then went back out and finished the set. Afterwards, I found that I had a bruised chest, sprained left wrist (which was why I could still serve), black/blue over one eye and various cuts that I took care of. The bruise healed up in a week. The sprained wrist took about two months to heal. I didn’t go to the emergency room - I just went to CVS to pick up a few things to deal with the injuries. The pain showed up a few hours after the injury. I’ve had first aid training and worked in a hospital for four years and have had my share of sports-related injuries over the years so dealing with them isn’t a big deal.</p>

<p>I don’t know what Zimmerman’s background is but I read that paramedics treated him. I would assume that they cleaned up any blood and would testify to that in court or provide information in an investigation. Actually I’m surprised that the media hasn’t looked into that.</p>

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<p>Casey Anthony…</p>

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<p>You expect the media to want all the facts? If they had them, they may not be able to sell this story so well!</p>

<p>And for those of you saying that he couldn’t have had a broken nose because “you don’t see it” need to realize that you can break your nose without a ton of blood, without deformation of bone, and without any immediate bruising…</p>

<p>So, if they had done an in. ves. ti. ga. tion. none of these questions would be floating around in the air now.</p>

<p>Where are the paramedics? They can certainly testify as to what was or was not “wrong” with Zimmerman after this murder.</p>

<p>Hops Scout-- Your big objection seems to be about the racism claims. So, take that out of it.</p>

<p>Do you think it is okay for a member of the human race to stalk another member of the human race and to kill him, and for no police investigation into that action to take place? If a police officer shoots a murderer, they surrender their weapon, and there is an investigation. every police shooting is investigated. Why was this shooting not investigated? Why were Treyvon’s parent’s not called?</p>

<p>even you have to admit there’s something wrong with this case.</p>