<p>^^ I can’t believe those officers are still on the force.</p>
<p>I saw new photos of Trayvon, taken 9 days before he died. He may have been tall, but he was very slight (see photo on horse). He does not look like a football player.</p>
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<p>It is impossible to know, but if Trayvon ended up killing Zimmerman with Zimmerman’s gun, the police would probably be less likely to believe Trayvon due to the circumstances: A young stranger kills a local neighborhood watch resident who has a good reputation in the community (at least according to ST’s linked article) and an established relationship with the police dept (altho it is unclear how Z was perceived by the PD). I think this would be true regardless of Trayvon’s race.</p>
<p>Public opinion may be entertaining but not terribly valid if your goal is finding the right answer because it is dependent on media leaks. </p>
<p>Reasonable people would have shifted in their opinions from arrest Zimmerman to maybe not back to arrest him again based on what gets leaked, all the while unable to be totally sure because of inability to judge (legally) the impact of the StandYerGround law.</p>
<p>There is a reason why indictments are not done with polls.</p>
<p>The author ofnthe syg law says it never should have been appliednin this case, and in many of the other dozens of similar cases. </p>
<p>Zimmerman was a self appointed neighborhood watch committee. He worked alone. He roamed around with a gun looking for trouble.</p>
<p>Trayvon had done nothing wrong, didn’t warrant being followed inn the first place by some want a be cop. And seems if he did stand up for himself, it was his fault for getting shot?</p>
<p>And there is one witness who support zimmermans story, but many others and the evidence and the tapes all don’t.</p>
<p>It’s not about indictments being done by polls, for heavens sake. It’s shedding light on coverups, pushing for investigations to actualy be done, its not believing eveything the cops say.</p>
<p>In the NYC case, the cops lied to the press about the victim fighting back and having a hatchet. It was a lie. But because the family went public, and forced the police to share the tapes, photos, etc, voila no hatchet, knife or anything else. If the family waited for an indictment or the truth from the police or a real investigation, they wouls have waited a very long time. And even with proof the police lied, no much has happened so far. Oh, white cops, black victim.</p>
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<p>the story wouldn’t have reached the headlines. The story hit the news because of race…Period</p>
<p>Yes it did, and good thing, too.</p>
<p>What Mini said.</p>
<p>yes, good thing…but also shows the agenda of the liberal press</p>
<p>^^^^^^^oh puleeeze…how do you do the eye-rolling thing?</p>
<p>^ roll your eyes all you want but you know this story never reaches the news if not for race…now why is that???</p>
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<p>It’s not up to him. It’s up to the Florida AG to interpret what’s written in law, not to ask the author how it should be applied.</p>
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<p>Doesn’t matter- what matters is whether Zimmerman is legally culpable or whether the standyerground law protects him. I accept the judgment of the Florida AG and expect by default that he will weigh all the evidence appropriately.</p>
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<p>That wasn’t what I asked. I’ll ask you again: if both men were the same race, what would your reaction have been? How do you feel about an incident where one man saying that he felt threatened shoots another–a 17 year old–who turns out to be unarmed and walking home…and then the police do not initially conduct an investigation into what under the best of circumstances is manslaughter? We’ll make the police the same race as both men, too. Just to keep things focussed.</p>
<p>^ no reaction until the dust settles… A crime might have or might not have occurred. I wont rush to judgement as others are doing here…white-white, black-black, or whatever is irrelevant to me.</p>
<p>^^ my reaction would be… this is what happens in a society that allows individuals to carry guns and act like vigilantes.</p>
<p>The fact that race was involved here - that just adds fuel to an already smoldering fire</p>
<p>If this same crime happened sans the racial aspects it would still absolutely be a huge issue. Neighborhood watch guy who was told not to follow and ends up killing an innocent teen bc of his misread of behavior for example. It is a sharper issue with the racial realities. </p>
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<p>^no way…would be mentioned and be gone the next day if it was black on black or white on white.</p>
<p>The race issue occurs not because of the white on black crime (heaven knows that happens often enough), but because of the systemic racism of the police department, how they handled this particular incident (including not even looking for the parents) and prior incidents. And, yes, if the victim was white, I feel confident the police department wouldn’t have handled it this way. </p>
<p>White on black was NOT irrelevant in this case. And by white, I mean the police department.</p>
<p>And I agree, the incident hit the press because of race. Thank you, media, for doing your job well (for a change).</p>
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<p>Agreed. A crime may, or may not have occurred. One man has shot another man dead. The police arrive on the scene. The shooter says that he shot the other man in self-defense. The shooter is taken in to the police station, and then quickly released. There is (initially) no further police investigation. </p>
<p>If you want to keep insisting that this is all about the media pumping up a case solely because of race, without commenting on the actions of the police, then you’re still dodging my question. This isn’t just about the shooting.</p>
<p>Personally I think there should be more attention given to ALL murders. </p>
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