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<p>ah…so you DO agree that there is, at least, probable cause to arrest Zimmerman - and that a jury should decide his innocence or guilt and whether he has a “Stand Your Ground” defense, NOT the police. </p>
<p>And, yes, ironically, the “evidence” that establishes probable cause would never have come to light had it not been for the media coverage and the public outcry.</p>
<p>^ no I don’t agree…that is up to the AG</p>
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<p>where is the public outcry for the 6 year old girl shot dead in a drive by mentioned above? Did it ever reach the news…why not?</p>
<p>The individuals who shot that little girl in Chicago less than 2 weeks ago were already arrested. In that case, “justice” may at least be served (not that it will be much consolation for the family). The public outcry here is about much more than a senseless death; it is about a system of justice that makes no sense.</p>
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<p>My outcry is also about the gun nuts and the NRA who won’t be happy until every citizen of this country has a gun for every day of the week and two on Sunday.</p>
<p>^^^^^what cartera said.</p>
<p>^nope…just need 1 to protect my family</p>
<p>Actually, you can try to blame the media all you want, but, in fact, it was “people” who broke this story. An Irish guy, whiter than white, in fact, started a petition on change.org, and the story took off. People became outraged. The media DID NOT pick up the story until many people were already signing the petition.</p>
<p>This was a case of social media, not liberal media, driven by individuals.</p>
<p>That the media picked up the story later? Fine.</p>
<p>But they didn’t START the story.</p>
<p>And it isn’t a story because one nut with a gun shot someone who was black. It is a huge story because the police did nothing about the murder of a 17 year old black man at the hands of a vigilante judge’s son. AND becuase, what kind of law is that? Where someone can chase you and shoot you and claim self-defense? That’s no law and we all know it.</p>
<p>^…and that is not the law…and we do not know what happened</p>
<p>if he is guilty of a crime, I hope he rots in jail…but unlike many here, I will wait to see what the facts are before I rush to judgement.</p>
<p>If we followed your advice, geeps, we’d be waiting forever to find out the facts. The police let him walk (after being instructed to do so by the state attorney general). They didn’t interview witnesses. They didn’t even try to find out who the victim was! How, in your view, were the facts supposed to emerge? Certainly not in a trial-- the police didn’t charge the dude. </p>
<p>And I ask you, geeps, does the dude in the video look like someone who was being beaten to death, so he had to shoot his attacker? Bruises and swelling on his face-- absent. Bruises and cuts on the back of his head, absent.</p>
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<p>And you have video to show that? Because the video I saw today was not good enough to determine the extent of any bodily harm.</p>
<p>Of course I don’t remember anybody acknowledging that the man was handcuffed and taken to jail either…</p>
<p>Bay wrote: I think he would have been arrested, just as Zimmerman was.</p>
<p>Zimmerman was arrested? When did this happen?</p>
<p>I saw one video and there is no way to determine injuries from what I saw…maybe you have superman vision…lol</p>
<p>Of course I don’t remember anybody acknowledging that the man was handcuffed and taken to jail either… </p>
<p>that would be because he wasn’t taken to jail, just to the police station, were he was questioned, gave some cockamamie story and was let go.</p>
<p>"Of course I don’t remember anybody acknowledging that the man was handcuffed and taken to jail either… </p>
<p>that would be because he wasn’t taken to jail, just to the police station, were he was questioned, gave some cockamamie story and was let go.</p>
<p>I also hope Zimmerman rots in jail if found guilty. The circumstantial evidence is stacking up against him, but we don’t have all the facts.</p>
<p>I am with Geeps on the media bias. Tonight I listened to the full transcript of Zimmerman’s 911 call and then the version NBC played.</p>
<p>Zimmerman: There is someone acting suspicious in my neighborhood.
911 operator: Why is he suspicious?
Zimmerman: He is staggering around like he is drunk or on drugs.
911 operator: What does he look like? Is he white, black or hispanic?
Zimmerman: I think he is black</p>
<p>Here is what NBC has been playing:</p>
<p>Zimmerman: There is someone suspicious in my neighborhood.
911: What does he look like?
Zimmerman: He is black</p>
<p>Why not play the full recording?</p>
<p>“And I ask you, geeps, does the dude in the video look like someone who was being beaten to death, so he had to shoot his attacker? Bruises and swelling on his face-- absent. Bruises and cuts on the back of his head, absent.”</p>
<p>I don’t really know how close a shot you got of this guys head on the video. What about the police report? Did they lie? What about the paramedics recording treatment? Did they lie too? Do you have to wait till the very last point where you think you’re going to be beaten to death to defend yourself? This whole situation is about nothing but fear. </p>
<p>This is such an obvious case of fear taking over. Self appointed wannabe cop sees someone suspicious after a rash of break ins. Follows him, kid gets scared being followed and confronts him. Each of them think the other is the bad guy, when really neither is. Fear. What a tragedy, but the race baiters make me sick taking advantage of this. You can analyze this all you want, but unless you can actually feel the cold fear taking over you like these guys did…someone following you, looking threatening. Following the stranger in the hoodie with something in his hands, who decides to confront you. Sad, a wasted life.</p>
<p>I don’t disagree there is a media bias. This seems to be a ubiquitious media issue these days.</p>
<p>I do disagree that it all would be fine if the media didn’t get involved.</p>
<p>IF the media hadn’t gotten involved, there wouldn’t even BE an investigation. There are a lot of places I wish the media would get MORE involved in investigating, most of them include all sorts of corruption in all sorts of areas of the government.</p>
<p>But, all that said, in this case, what we are seeing is an injustice (whether there is a conviction or not is not the point. EVERY time someone is killed there needs to be an investigation in this country. Nobody is a throw away person) being righted, and an investigation taking place.</p>
<p>I have no interest in being judge or jury. I do have a strong interest in seeing anyone in power being kept honest, being forced to do their job if they refuse, and to have cover-ups exposed. The thing that interests me is not the racism, though clearly the racism of the police department drives the story, it is the fact that those in charge of the investigation decided it wasn’t necessary. Why did they do this? certainly not based on the evidence and a five hour interview with the shooter?</p>
<p>ETA: If they didn’t investigate because his father was a judge? I’m equally as outraged. But, that’s just me. I hate corruption and crony-anything. I want everyone playing by the same rules.</p>
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<p>Gee… it seems you have a different definition of “investigation” than others? 5 hour interview? A request for charges? Collection of evidence? I guess that’s not an investigation…</p>