<p>Cartera–I found this in a report from a Mayo Clinic doctor who had examined McCain back in 2000.</p>
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<p>Thanks Hindoo. McCain is the poster boy for getting body scans for skin cancer. Finding 4 melanomas before doing lots of damage is a pretty good record.</p>
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<p>Obama only eats arugula.</p>
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<p>Well, that’s a problem then, since there are NO calories in arugula!</p>
<p>I better start eating arugala, then!</p>
<p>But first - Hindo - make me some of what you were talking about up there! Yum!!!</p>
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<p>Where did you post it? </p>
<p>Personally, while I am not an Obama supporter, I have to say that he sure looks like he is trying to transcend the issue, and it seems like if left to his own devices he would. Unfortunately, some of his supporters keep bringing it up. Over and over and over again. Thank you, Ludicrous! </p>
<p>It isn’t helping their candidate, BTW. It is, as Michelle Obama herself would likely say, a distraction. I think that, with very few exceptions, people are more than ready to focus on the issues at hand. I also believe that most people, if all else were equal, would prefer to have the first AA president (or the first anything president - woman, etc.). It’s an exciting milestone for this nation, and it is uniquely American for such a milestone to be reached.</p>
<p>[Does</a> Experience Matter in a President? - TIME](<a href=“http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1717926,00.html]Does”>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1717926,00.html)</p>
<p>I find the “Obama is not experienced enough” argument reasonable and rational but irrelevant. The above posted Time Magazine article presents quantitative evidence that experience is poor critera for electing an official and anecdotal evidence of experienced politicians make mistakes.</p>
<p>Any comments?</p>
<p>Y2kplaya92:</p>
<p>Thank you for posting that. I think that if people weren’t so intellectually lazy when it comes to politics they would figure that out. When you think about other things in life like work, having more experience, which is an asset, than another worker doesn’t guarantee that you will get the promotion over them. The decision to promote someone is complex and is based on more than one thing. </p>
<p>If an older worker tried to argue that he or she deserved the promotion more than a younger worker solely because he or she has been there longer, written more reports, etc. they would be seen as out of touch with reality–which is that the “better” worker gets the promotion.</p>
<p>I still like Hillary better than Obama.</p>
<p>^There’s always the Convention.</p>
<p>Spidey…it’s easy to find: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/546044-obama-now-plays-race-card.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/546044-obama-now-plays-race-card.html</a></p>
<p>Marite wrote: The fact remains that once you’ve graduated from Harvard Law/Yale Law, etc. you are special and you know it.
Hindoo wrote: Rats. I attended Cal State Fullerton</p>
<p>As a parent of a kid at an Ivy affiliate (Barnard/Columbia) and another who graduated from a CSU… I have to agree that there is a difference and it does have an impact on behavior and outlook… but I wouldn’t use the word “elite” to describe it. It may look like “elitism” from the outside – but its really more that the person who has spent the time at the “elite” school develops a level of self-confidence as well as more exacting set of expectations for themselves and others. Part of it is the demands of the education; part of it is the experiences and qualifications of the faculty. “Audacity” is actually a good word to describe it – it is something that is acquired by being surrounded by people who have accomplished so much, and coming to see oneself as being along the same path.</p>
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I agree with this, but I don’t think it’s “vanity” or any sort of act. I think that the reason that Obama has done so well at such a young age is precisely because he projects an air of self-assurance and confidence. If he didn’t have that quality, he wouldn’t seem at all “Presidential” – and he simply would not have gotten where he is now. </p>
<p>I also think that if Obama had the confidence and self-assurance without the polish, then he would be perceived as another Jesse Jackson-- who also is clearly a man who could be branded as arrogant or audacious. But that tends to be intimidating as well. I mean: at a gut level you figure that you wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of Jesse Jackson in a street fight, but you know that Obama isn’t going to be punching anyone out. So he’s managing to walk a very thin line between appearing too weak or appearing too scary.</p>
<p>Calmom: Re your post 711:</p>
<p>Actually, it was Zoosermom who said that in post 678.</p>
<p>I, for one, could weep with gratitude at the prospect of having an intelligent, articulate president who conveys a sense of calm self-assurance, strength, and yes, youthful energy. To me, Obama’s that guy.</p>
<p>I respect you Hindoo, you are very articulate, but there is more to being the President than those wonderful attributes.</p>
<p>I do not want a President that goes with the polls. Obama has a problem that is going to bite him…I bet my last dollar that the RNC will in Sept start bringing out what he said in the dem debates and than little clips of what he is saying now, add that to the fact he was the most liberal senator with very little experience and people will say I’ll go with the old guy for 4 yrs!</p>
<p>Obama should have waited until 12…than without a doubt hands down he would have won. IMHO he handed Hillary the Presidency for 12!</p>
<p>I respect you too, b&p, and I agree with you on this–to a point. The RNC will undoubtedly start using things Obama has said against him. However, the DNC will most assuredly start doing the same with McCain. And it will continue to be the dirty, mud-slinging political tactics America’s borne witness to since Adams ran against Jefferson. Every election, I start out excited and energized … and end up exhausted and depressed after enduring months of toxic campaigning. Alas. :(</p>
<p>The problem for Obama is the Repubs debates ended aloooong time ago!
Basically McCain got momentum and everyone dropped out, except Huck! Whereas, Obama had many more debates with Hillary so there are more soundbites that they can use against him.</p>
<p>Second problem is the same Bill Clinton had…military respect. The worse thing Obama did was not visiting to Landstuhl (sp?) In the end it was blamed on the fact that he could not bring his campaign mgrs in…Obama said he wanted to bring in his military guy a retired general and it was denied. As a Senator he could go in without his Presidential campaign staff, and the retired general can go on any base. As a matter of fact he would be deemed a DV and the General could have visited the wounded soldiers. Now he has isolated the military further away…the military and their family want them out of Iraq, but that was just wrong on how he handled the sit.! If he really cared about the soldiers he would have said stay back to the reporters and his staff…afterall he ditched the media one night to meet Hillary! Are you saying some kid from Chicago who he represents wasn’t worthy of him ditching his staff and the media like he did for Hillary?</p>
<p>why didn’t McCain go and visit any wounded soldiers at Walter Reed while Obama was abroad? He had plenty of time. He could have done that instead of riding around in the golf course at Kennebunkport.</p>
<p>You do know that Obama visited wounded soldiers in Iraq, don’t you? and that before that, he visited at Walter Reed?</p>
<p>McCain has always visited the troops. You are insinuating that McCain should never do anything, but visit troops. He has 2 AD children, one enlisted in Afghanistan…which he quietly visited, the other at USNA,</p>
<p>IMHO Obama couldn’t care less about the troops…even the media who adores him state that he doesn’t feel comfortable.</p>
<p>BTW please link his visit to Walter Reed</p>
<p>[CNN</a> Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Obama visits Walter Reed « - Blogs from CNN.com](<a href=“http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/28/obama-visits-walter-reed/]CNN”>http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/28/obama-visits-walter-reed/)</p>