<p>bp:</p>
<p>Why do veteran groups grade Obama’s voting record higher than McCain’s?</p>
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<p>So uncomfortable that he made a three pointer shot cold. Uh huh. Who told you this one? Rush? Bill? Sean?</p>
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<p>He’s like Paris Hilton. If the paparazzi aren’t there with cameras, he’s not making an appearance. It’s not easy being the world’s biggest celebrity.</p>
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<p>You’re like Boy George.</p>
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I’d like to point out that the McCain ad where he said Obama didn’t go visit the wounded troops because he couldn’t bring cameras was a lie. Obama was never planning on bringing cameras. The reason he canceled his visit was actually kind of the opposite. He was planning on it being a personal visit, just him, no cameras, no anyone, but then he found out that the Pentagon was going to classify it as a political visit anyway…</p>
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<p>Yes, and he did it quietly and without fanfare–which is why so few seem to know about it.</p>
<p>Jarn - sorry, but Obama said himself that he didn’t go because he couldn’t bring his campaign director.</p>
<p>The military was all set for him - they were expecting him. He canceled at the last minute. He COULD’VE gone - if he’d wanted to, but it just couldn’t be the big media/campaign event he wanted.</p>
<p>And I still don’t understand why he even had to make anything about the trip part of his campaign - why not just go on a CODEL to Iraq & Afghanistan, find out what’s really going on (as much as is possible during one short trip) and then come home?</p>
<p>But bz, Obama DID visit wounded soldiers both at Walter Reed and in Iraq, and he did it quietly, without journalists, cameramen, publicists, campaign managers, etc. As for the Afghanistan situation, I can’t pretend to know what really happened there … but to infer that he was uncaring or only looking for a political boost is probably not fair.</p>
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<p>Not as unfair as accusing Hillary Rodham Clinton of not caring about Katrina victims because they are black.</p>
<p>Barack Hussein Obama has **no standing **to whine about unfair political attacks.</p>
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<p>I’d like a link on this one–and I don’t mean from some right-wing blog.</p>
<p>Google “Obama Co-Chair Questions Hillary’s Tears” and watch the YouTube that appears as the first item on the search. </p>
<p>The TV interview took place the morning after the New Hampshire primary and was the first time the Barack Hussein Obama campaign officially dealt the race card from the bottom of the deck, especially given the work both Clintons have done for Katrina victims.</p>
<p>This followed a night of Barack Hussein Obama surrogates blaming the NH defeat on racial voting and preceded the trip to S.C. where the Barack Hussein Obama campaign distributed talking points memos outlining how to target the Clintons as racists.</p>
<p>I see. It wasn’t Obama himself who said or implied anything. … During the primary campaign, I seem to recall that Hillary had some of her own unfortunate moments when staffers/surrogates jabbered ridiculous, offensive things.</p>
<p>Don’t candidates often dismiss staffers who say ridiculous, offensive things? Or at least apologize for them?</p>
<p>For both sides, we should accept that their workers are indeed surrogates. It’s not really fair to excuse one candidate’s staffer as not really representing their candidate, but then pile on the other candidate for their staffers’ missteps.</p>
<p>The national campaign chairman is not a renegade “staffer” and dealing the race card from the bottom of the deck was not an isolated instance. The Barack Hussein Obama campaign did it after every loss, just as the **The One **trotted it out this week in an attempt to halt freefall in polls.</p>
<p>OK, there’s no arguing with you, interesteddad. You know what you know. Obama is pure evil, even though his political stances are 99% in line with Hillary Clinton’s. We know you despise him. Enough, already.</p>
<p>bz2010:</p>
<p>McCain’s campaign had two ads about Obama and the troops. One was criticizing him for going; the other was criticizing him for not going.</p>
<p>interesteddad:</p>
<p>Quit whining please.</p>
<p>Also, no one played the “race card” in “Obama Co-Chair Questions Hillary’s Tears.” You don’t even know what the “race card” is so quit using to that pejorative.</p>
<p>Hindoo, you asked for cold, hard evidence, and interesteddad provided it. You dismiss it as not being important because it was only from a “staffer,” but when interesteddad points out that the ugly words came from the national campaign chair, you:</p>
<p>a) concede that the words were ugly and BO should have publicly apologized
b) acknowledge that both sides can resort to such smears
or c) show your disgust with your fellow CCer.</p>
<p>C, really?</p>
<p>HardKnocks–I’ve repeatedly said that both sides are capable of ugliness. … And Barak Obama has repeatedly disavowed ridiculous statements from “surrogates,” just as Hillary Clinton and John McCain have. … I’m not “disgusted” with interesteddad. I’ve simply been worn out by his constant mean-spirited harping on THE ONE. Unless Obama murdered one of id’s children, I can’t comprehend the level of hatred he has for the man. He throws plenty of mud, but has yet to make me understand why. OK, ID, crucify me.</p>
<p>Some people are still angry that Clinton lost the nomination. They would rather see another Republican president that they don’t agree with than see Obama win. They care more about his losing than they care about policy matters, imo, otherwise they would be quite concerned about another 4 years of a Bush-like administration. You can’t reason with those people, because they are caught up in emotional anger. Not knowing the man, I don’t know if that’s ID’s issue, but it certainly seems possible going by his postings on this board.</p>
<p>Hindoo does not get “disgusted” - that’s one reasonable CCer right there (and that’s a conservative/libertarian-type evaluating a liberal).</p>
<p>I’ve read and respected many of Hindoo’s posts – just not that particular exchange.</p>
<p>I dislike the strategy, when faced with the facts, to change the subject or make a personal attack.</p>