<p>For the most part, both candidate will do exactly what their respective parties want them to do, once in office. I don’t see either of them being able to effect major change. That would have to come from voting out all of the idiots we keep electing to congres, over and over. If people knew they could only be in congress for 10 or 12 years rather than 20 or 30 years it might change things.</p>
<p>I get why people are harping on experience but its not the absolute factor. Experience in Washington basically amounts to the same people, doing the same wrong things over and over again, through a long period of time. Dick Cheney had worlds of experience, but it didn’t seem to give him good judgment though…</p>
<p>Rated: I decided to vote for Obama when I saw him speak at Boston College in 2005. At the time, he wasn’t even running for president yet but in his speech, he challenged the undergraduate audience to give back to the country, engage in community service, and to use our education to help the less fortunate. He was not running for president and he seemed totally sincere and it was a great message that we needed to hear. My classmates and I were talking about his speech months later.</p>
<p>My reasons for voting for him now, as a mid-20 something are many. I believe that we need to reevaluate our position in the middle east. We are in a winless war and are worried that pulling out will look cowardly. I believe that Obama has the analytical skills to really evaluate the situation.</p>
<p>I am also concerned about the environment and fuel prices and do not think that John McCain’s plans for a tax holiday or government credits will help the problem. I also feel the Obama is sincere when he addresses the importance of environmental issues (would it be too much to hope for that Al Gore gets a cabinet position).</p>
<p>I just finished graduate school and I am beginning to start my first teaching job (did 400 hours of classroom experience in college). I hate NCLB and think that it is a terrible program. Obama also supports merit pay (as opposed to experience pay) for teachers, which I think is a good idea.</p>
<p>Finally, I agree with Obama on social issues. I will not vote for someone who is anti-choice. As a woman, I think that I am the only one who has the right to make decisions over my own body and my capability to bring a child into the world. I should note that I was raised in a mainstream protestant background and I consider myself a Christian. </p>
<p>I would prefer a candidate who actively supported gay marriage (this is Civil Rights 101, people) but encouraging civil unions is what I will have to settle for.</p>
<p>Anyone voting for Obama, who wants Al Gore back in Washington is enough to convince me to call and volunteer for McCain’s campaign. Gore is a lunatic. He wins a Nobel Prize (which is now a joke) for a piece of fiction. He loses the election then loses his mind and go to play Jeremiah Johnson for a while. If there is any chance that Obama will put Gore in a position of power then he is pandering for votes and it is shameles…</p>
<p>pmrlcomm:
climate change is fiction? gore is a lunatic? you just discredited yourself. I bet you think intelligent design is a good idea too.</p>
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<p>Recording?? Link please.
It was hearsay from what I’ve been able to determine.</p>
<p>How can you chastise McCain for name-calling (which may or may not have even occurred & if it did, may or may not have been in jest to someone who may or may not have even cared) when you are blatantly engaging in some pretty rude name-calling yourself on a public forum?</p>
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<p>First off I said Gore produced a work of fiction (I never commented one way or another on climate change…of course there is something going on). I really do like how now that they’ve debunked global warming you all conveniently change it to “climate change”. Just the fact that he tried to pass of footage from a hollywood movie as part of his “documentary” is enough to remove all credibility.</p>
<p>[RealClearPolitics</a> - Articles - A Convenient Lie](<a href=“http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/07/a_convenient_lie.html]RealClearPolitics”>RealClearPolitics - Articles - A Convenient Lie)</p>
<p>Why don’t you try googling “inconvenient truth lies” and see what you come up. Not everything out there is some whacko. </p>
<p>As for him being a lunatic…</p>
<p>[The</a> Reference Frame: Vaclav Klaus on global warming](<a href=“http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/02/vclav-klaus-about-ipcc-panel.html]The”>http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/02/vclav-klaus-about-ipcc-panel.html)</p>
<p>Sorry. The guy has no credibility except with the tree-hugging liberals. </p>
<p>For the record I am evolution all the way. Don’t make judgements about me. My statements about you were based on things you had written specifically. Don’t put words into my mouth.</p>
<p>Yeah, if there’s a recording of McCain calling his wife the “C” word, I’d like to hear it, too. I very much doubt that there is, because if there was, it certainly would have been plastered over the airwaves by now. There is, however, a rather shocking YouTube video of McCain on an airplane responding to a female reporter’s questions with repeated ear blistering expletives. I was very disappointed to have seen this with my own eyes. I can’t believe McCain showed so little judgment as to do such a thing—with cameras rolling, no less. Prior to watching this video, I had taken the report of McCain calling his wife a **** in front of reporters with a BIG grain of salt, but now I can’t help but suspect that it actually did happen.:(</p>
<p>Who cares - McCain’s got a foul mouth. So what.</p>
<p>It has no bearing on the amount of knowledge and experience he has or how prepared he is to be POTUS. He’s the better candidate regardless of his vocabulary.</p>
<p>ph - I searched youtube for the video to which you referred but found nothing. Could you provide a link please?</p>
<p>I’m actually quite tired of our politicians having to be perfect. It would be nice to see Obama tell a heckler to go take a flying ***** or McCain ask a reporter why is asking such a stupid *****ing question. Maybe not in so many words but with the sentiment. When did these guys get put on a pedestal where they can’t be like you or me? I think that is part of the problem. We hold them to a standard we don’t hold ourselves to.</p>
<p>I’ve seen the McCain on an airplane video. Everyone should youtube it. The news cycle was full of it until they realized that people weren’t buying the ‘temper’ aspect of it…McCain over and over stresses he doesn’t want to disclose a private conversation. He’s irritated slightly but no more so than anyone watching the video might be at the reporter. Her ‘why are you so angry’ comes completely out of left field and is a feeble attempt to claim she got him to expose his ‘fiery temper’. Didn’t happen.</p>
<p>When you claim someone is irrationally angry at all times you need to show them being more than slightly irritated. At the same time former Pres. Clinton was showing his more than famous temper with everyone. No one would dare suggest his temper made him a bad president.</p>
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<p>Because, and hold on to your pants there because it gets shocking: I’m not running for president of the United States!</p>
<p>I curse (not at my gf mind you), I have a history of leaving work to the last minute, and probably don’t care about helping my fellowman as much as I should…Doesn’t mean that I want a president who resembles me in those aspects, now does it? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>There are some things that just rub you the wrong way. This happens to be mine…Blog about it. It’s not the sole basis of my vote by any means. Just something that irked me about his character. </p>
<p>Hillary gets vilified for wearing the wrong top (most ridiculous waste of a news segment in the history of time) but lord forbids someone dislikes McCain for something other than the issues. </p>
<p>And if we stay on topic to the issues and whatnot then Obama still wins by a landslide for me.</p>
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<p>Who has debunked global warming? Vaclav Klaus? </p>
<p>Here is the latest scientific opinion on global warming, climate change, or whatever you want to call it:</p>
<p>[Scientific</a> opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change]Scientific”>Scientific consensus on climate change - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>President Bush even did an about-face on global warming this year:</p>
<p>[Bush</a> Administration: global warming is real and a threat to the U.S. economy](<a href=“http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0530-bush.html]Bush”>http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0530-bush.html)</p>
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<p>“To the issues and whatnot”??</p>
<p>Brilliant. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Lionhead - my post questioning the name-calling was directed at undisclosed.
But if you want to try to defend him/her, fine.</p>
<p>I still don’t think you can criticize McCain for something that is merely hearsay, especially when you’re doing the exact same thing.</p>
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<p>Oh yeah! The ‘I have nothing to add so I insult you on trivial stuff and add a rolleye smilie’ specimen. They’re so entertaining.</p>
<p>Well, the value of your political opinion just shot through the roof. You should tour the country and impart. Really. </p>
<p>Oh and what the hell. When in Rome… :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Yeah - I admit it. I displayed a little sarcasm. (Actually that is one of the first times I’ve used the rolleyes smilie). I just couldn’t resist when you opened the door by saying “and whatnot” when you were encouraging us to stay on the issues.</p>
<p>…and then said Obama wins by a landslide regarding issues, but didn’t make any statements relative to the issues.</p>
<p>I’m sorry - I’ll be more “gentle” in future posts!</p>
<p>A low point for me on CC. Aren’t you honored that you drove me to it? haha!</p>
<p>bz, I’m proud of you! … I’m an old pro at getting cranky, sarcastic, and whatnot on CC, then regretting it.</p>
<p>If I were an Obama supporter, I would feel deceived! This ordinary politician who claimed he would be different has shown to be nothing of the kind. He stated he was above racial politics but his campaign interjects it frequently. He vociferously claims he supports campaign finance reform but becomes easily dissuaded when the money is too good to turn down. He will do and say whatever it will take to get elected. I predict he will start claiming he’s for more nuclear power over the objections of his base . So where is your objectivity for your support or are you blinded by this so called “messiah” that you are unable to criticize your own candidate? AS for McCain, he has succumb to public pressure with regards to drilling, but his base still criticize him for his maverick ways? This is why it is unclear as to what support he will have in the fall. The voters will turn out but they won’t be pro-McCain but anti- Obama!</p>
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<p>I wasn’t encouraging you to stay on the issues. If you re-read the posts, you’ll see that it was in reply to the opinion stated before that calling his wife a **** was irrelevant to his qualities and character as a president. I said it was relevant for me and added that on the issues alone, my support (on the issues and whatnot) was already fully for Obama. </p>
<p>Kudos on appearing unintelligent and unable to follow the simplest of reasonings. And without the words ‘and whatnot’. Takes flair. ;)</p>
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<p>Because we weren’t discussing the issues, but a character point of the candidate. </p>
<p>I said that Obama wins by a landslide for me. It wasn’t a prediction of the outcome of the race but a personal statement of opinion. Should I bold the words in the future so you understand them?</p>
<p>And since I don’t feel the need to attach my stances on everything from international policies to economics when discussing another matter entirely I didn’t get into it. But hey, that’s just me.</p>
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<p>Forget gentle, I’d settle for remotely intelligent at this point. Keep trying though…the potential is there, I’m sure.</p>
<p>Oh well, I’m off. Feel free to have the last word for the day. I’m sure it’s worth a lot to you.</p>
<p>Cheers…and whatnot</p>
<p>TerpDad - ^^^ Very astute post. Should be required reading for every Obama supporter.</p>
<p>Altho’ I think there will be many more pro-McCain supporters than you seem to suggest. By the time this is all said & done, many people will some to realize what an excellent candidate we have in McCain - the best since Reagan (maybe even better!). </p>
<p>JSM just isn’t that good w/ canned speeches - he’s much better in the town hall/think on your feet kind of format. (That shows he has much more command of the issues than his opponent/s). If Obama accepts his debate challenges it will become oh so clear.</p>