<p>I now cannot imagine any realistic scenario where these babies are sent home with Nadya.</p>
<p>Making a deal with Gloria Allred might be making a deal with the devil, but since it was a short term offer for 6 months, it seems like it would have been the safest and sanest situation while Nadya figures out how to deal with the daily grind of 8 infants and 6 other children. A routine could have been established, each child would get enough care and attention and the medical issues could be addressed by professionals. </p>
<p>Nadya is in denial land. When those babies come home, I just don’t know how she will cope. Especially once the sleep deprivation comes in…which it will, with a vengeance. It’s hard enough with one and no sleep. Just wait till every baby will be waking up on a different schedule, needing a feeding, a diaper change or just attention that babies need. Even with a houseful of volunteers, I don’t know how good a job she will do keeping on top of their special issues - especially since they were so tiny. Preemies don’t always feed well, often have respiratory issues and developmental delays. </p>
<p>I think she is not thinking this one through, rejecting that offer outright.</p>
<p>Her rejection of help and pursuit of a TV reality show deal is probably jusmore grist for the DFACS mill-- they will not let those kids go into an unsafe, unreasonable or inappropriate environment. Keep making those bad decisions Nadya, and the likelihood of your getting those babies goes down and down…</p>
<p>And can you imagine filming a reality show around all those babies & chaos? Cameramen and other workers etc. etc. Not to say that the resulting show wouldn’t be irresistible, if you like watching train wrecks.</p>
<p>She is totally out of touch with reality.</p>
<p>^^^ and just think about the potential for germs and illness and other junk that a crew coudl bring in (well, I guess the aides could too, but they are better versed as using sanitizers, etc). The more people parading into any home with those kids, the higher the risk for illness, infection, complications of all sorts. Besides, Nadya would probably have the film crew changing diapers, warming baby bottles, feeding kids and bathing them. Shes pretty good at barking orders and talking over people.</p>
<p>I’ve been thinking about the son who has been described as autistic. Kids on that spectrum need a controlled and predictable environment. The bedlam of babies, nurses, a new home (and maybe adding in cameras!) would be so stressful.</p>
<p>OMG
WHen my oldest was starting school a local television station wanted to do a story on her ( I think they were tipped off by one of her drs- she had been a very ill/young premie who was going to attend a private school for highly gifted children & the dr was on the advisory board).
The thought of even one camera filming me trying to make her lunch and get out the door- was horrifying ( nothing like a little added stress for the first day of school 
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They also wanted to follow her around at school. She probably wouldn’t have minded, she has a very happy even temperament, but she was already going to stick out, most of the kids had been attending the preschool & it was a mixed grade classroom- there were very few new & the first day of school is a big enough deal without a camera following you around. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I have a question- we have personality tests to see if you qualify to get a job at Target, is there any sort of screening procedure done to evaluate whether someone is suitable to potentially give birth to multiples? ( particulary when they already have six children under seven years? That in itself seems insane)</p>
<p>^^^ Apparently not.</p>
<p>I don’t watch tv so I haven’t been closely following this case- but venting a bit here- this woman is incompetent to raise these children- Children deserve attention not to be raised in a factory setting.</p>
<p>She thinks she is messed up because her parents had a small family, what does she think she is doing to her kids, having them to give herself some sense of self worth, rather than being centered enough so she can provide that base for her children?</p>
<p>Personally, I think they need to be given up for adoption and raised in families that can provide them with more emotional/financial/physical support.</p>
<p>Emeraldkitty, I agree completely. Those children should go to appropriate homes away from their birth mother.</p>
<p>Thanks to all of you posting links to various news stories. The idea of the babies being a reality show is very disturbing to me; I almost think that qualifies as abusive. imho reminiscent of the Dionnes. Did I read on this site or another that Nadya had been offered a 1 million dollar porno deal? Anyone besides me see that as a better alternative than the baby show?</p>
<p>According to my mama calculations it will take two shifts (day & night) of 5 adults each shift to provide a bare minimum of acceptable physical care of the octuplets. Like someone else pointed out, the impact of that sort of environment on the first 6 has to be extremely negative.</p>
<p>At this point I am inclined to agree with my one real life friend who is still willing to talk about the case that the babies have to be split up, but haven’t yet made up my mind whether it should be two groups or three. Does anyone know what the foster care system is like in CA? Are there families able and willing to take in babies this fragile? What happens in that state with indigent singletons in this situation?</p>
<p>“is there any sort of screening procedure done to evaluate whether someone is suitable to potentially give birth to multiples?”</p>
<p>I asked pages ago if a normal fertility screening exam wouldn’t have excluded her and the answer seemed to be “yes.” I <em>think</em> NYmomof2 answered it.</p>
<p>Earlier today I watched the video of the earlier dialogue between Nadia and her mother. Nadia is STILL expecting to rely on the “community”, her “friends” and “family”. She refused to discuss any concerns that rational people would have with her situation. She figures her role is just to love them and let the rest of the world take on the responsibility of raising all her children. It’s so sad.</p>
<p>As Tina Turner said, “What’s love got to do with it?”</p>
<p>"When those babies come home, I just don’t know how she will cope. "</p>
<p>I don’t think the babies will be going home, at least not home to Nadya.</p>
<p>Hillary Rodham Clinton wrote that book “It takes a village”. I don’t think she was thinking about Nadya Suleman. </p>
<p>Apparently, Nadya expects the State of California to fund her foray into parenthood. And masses of willing volunteers to “raise” them.</p>
<p>Wait a sec. Did I misread, or was this mother unable to identify her own children? Unable. To. Identify. Her. Babies? She’s too busy getting her nails done to learn which one’s which? Am I the only one who thinks that’s strange?</p>
<p>When my oldest son was just born, the nurses took him to the nursery for a few tests, then they brought him back to me to nurse a few hours later and so he could “room in”. When the nurse brought my baby back to me in a bassinette, I didn’t have to see the label on his wrist or on the rolling cradle. I told the nurse, no, that isn’t my baby. I could tell just by the way he cried. At that point, I had the baby less than 8 hours before and knew what he sounded like. </p>
<p>The nurse was profusely apologetic for bringing the wrong baby to me, and surprised I can tell that it wasn’t my baby just by the sound of his crying. (No wonder there are hospital mixups. But that is another thread.)</p>
<p>I bet most of us could tell our baby without the aid of a wrist bracelet or a photograph. Maybe not Nadya, so much. Too many babies to learn their faces, their mannerisms and what they sound like. They are all so little and fragile.</p>
<p>Raising newly born octobabies could be done with community, parents and friends help. Her parent is frazzled and overworked, the community hasn’t embraced her, and she doesn’t seem to have any friends–which has seemed weird.</p>
<p>Not promising for those poor babies…</p>
<p>^^^ It is unfortunate for all of her children that she has made herself so “un-embraceable.”</p>
<p>She truly has had no one step up as a coworker, friend, confidant. No one. Not a neighbor, not someone from college or from the job she did hold prior to her disability. She was very alone in the word, except for this world she built for herself having children. I think this further reinforces her selfish and self-serving persona. It was always about Nadya. And it still is.</p>