<p>“Too many babies to learn their faces, their mannerisms and what they sound like. They are all so little and fragile.”</p>
<p>Nope. She’s just completely self centered.</p>
<p>S, 20, was a preemie and in NICU for 6 weeks. I could recognize him after seeing him the first time. I also could have recognized many of the other preemies who were in NICU with him.</p>
<p>Nadya certainly should have been able to recognize pictures of her babies especially since her babies now are several weeks old.</p>
<p>One thing that surprises me is how easily she appears to be able to get around – to have a manicure, to be on talk shows. I was absolutely exhausted for months after my emergency C-section that led to S’s birth. Just getting to and from the hospital was difficult enough – a 17 mile drive one way.</p>
<p>I barely was able to dress myself. I looked like crap for a long time.</p>
<p>I am astounded at how hale and hearty Nadya appears to be. She has the constitution of animals that do give birth to litters. I started to say “a horse”, but those don’t have litters. Constitution of a rabbit probably would be more apt.</p>
<p>I too had C-sections for all three of mine. I found the first one to be exhausting because I had been in labor for quite some time. Forget getting my nails or hair done. A trip to the grocery store was a major event for me. She hasn’t had to do more than visit her babies, so that could explain why she has so much time to indulge herself with all of her extravagant errands and talk show appearances.
And perhaps she plays with her other 6 children from time to time while her mother raises them.
She is without a clue.</p>
<p>“I found the first one to be exhausting because I had been in labor for quite some time.”
Oh I get you so!</p>
<p>twenty something years later I still don’t feel recovered from the c-section</p>
<p>I hope I’m not the only mom who couldn’t necessarily tell her newborns from others but I was almost manic about having a family member with newborns from birth on to be sure the medical staff didn’t get mine mixed up with someone elses. Perhaps it was the drugs but for some reason this was a huge concern. I instructed family to watch carefully from delivery till the hospital bracelets were applied, read the bracelet to be sure it had right info and so on…</p>
<p>also was concerned the bracelets were too roomy, might come off</p>
<p>no one would approve my idea of nail polish id for the newborn nursery</p>
<p>“I barely was able to dress myself. I looked like crap for a long time.”</p>
<p>In the months before I got pregnant at 30something, I was still being “carded” not just at bars but sometimes even at R movies. On a trip overseas there were rumours my husband had an underage bride and people seemed concerned. (but what can you expect with Americans?)</p>
<p>When I finally did leave the house after childbirth and went to my regular young dept (teen?) to shop the salesgirl started asking me what the daughter I was so obviously shopping for needed. I probably aged 25 years in 10 months. And for ever after people normally assumed I was older than my age.</p>
<p>sorry to be so off topic. I think she looks amazing for what she’s been through too.</p>
<p>okay, another baby id story. I just can’t seem to stop myself and this thread is really getting to me.</p>
<p>Last month son brought home serious girlfriend (hurray!!) for short visit and to entertain her I pulled out family photo albums. She is paging through trying to identify her boyfriend as an infant in the photos and in keeping with my philosophy that this future daughter-in-law is absolutely correct in whatever she says or does, I kept agreeing, “right that’s him” but it was absolutely hit or miss and no way to know the identity of baby without referring to name on back of photo.</p>
<p>Northstarmom, that’s because you were actually taking care of your baby. </p>
<p>Nadya doesn’t even seem to be taking care of her other 6 children. I mean, tmz is following her around, and I haven’t seen one picture of her in the company of any of her children.</p>
<p>VeryHappy - wow, posts add up quickly here! This is what I was talking about in my previous post - she didn’t want to talk about the care planning according the the head of Angels in Waiting. Just let me make money! How gruesome is that?! </p>
<p>But once Conforti-West ruled out Suleman’s request to do a reality show because of the babies’ fragile immune systems, Suleman seemed to lose interest, Conforti-West said.</p>
<p>“Every time I was talking to her about infant care, Nadya would try to redirect our conversation into how we could make money to support her and her children,” she said.</p>
<p>I’ve only seen a few J+K+8’s but one was about the extensive prep done and support people that they had arranged early on (and I think still have sometimes - like a laundry person, a teenager that comes in afternoons, SIL, etc.). No doubt they’ve made plenty from the show and related things but didn’t really get the feeling that they would hesitate to “pull the plug” if it was necessary. I’m sure it’s a bizarre way to live, but I think that mom does seem to put alot of time, effort, and thought into her family’s needs - but of course that could be good editing of the few shows I’ve seen!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, on the other show I saw, Kate “shared” her post-delivery belly with viewers. It was as if she’d just lost 400 pounds and it made me laugh when I heard about Nadya’s skin flick offers!</p>
<p>Agree, agree – no question Kate is ionvolved with her kids, but also no question that she still needs and has help. How else could one go to the dentist for oneself? Get a haricut? etc.</p>
<p>"Unfortunately, on the other show I saw, Kate “shared” her post-delivery belly with viewers. It was as if she’d just lost 400 pounds and it made me laugh when I heard about Nadya’s skin flick offers! "</p>
<p>strange as it seems: check with your local mothers of multiples club as to whether they don’t get regular requests for “before” and “after” photos, always supposedly for some legitimate purpose…</p>
<p>It’s entirely reasonable to me that someone who had eight babies growing inside them would want/need a bit of tummy tuck surgery. Heck, I’d do it if I were them.</p>
<p>Kate also has a husband who seems to have always been in the picture. Also, when the sextuplets were tiny, she was actually working as a nurse to earn income and Jon was working in IT. Nowadays, I’m sure they rake in the bucks from the show, but their book has been successful and they do receive money for speaking engagements. I might not necessarily want to sit and listen to them, but that is legitimately earned income, as well.</p>
<p>J&Kplus8: I don’t have cable so have only seen a few episodes but in spite of my overwhelming natural inclination to believe every parent has their own childrens’ best interests at heart (which informs my sympathy towards Nadya) it seems to me this sort of reality show shouldn’t be allowed by child welfare agencies. How could anyone argue this is not an invasion of the childrens’ privacy? It is like the kids were put in a circus side show before they reached age of consent. jmho and hope it doesn’t offend anyone reading who had to make a similar decision to support their family. Apologies in advance if that person is reading. I try to think of it as being equivalent to a small family run business where everyone participates but just can’t get comfortable with this on any level. Also in the few episodes I have seen the tone of the show makes me very uncomfortable. There seemed to be an underlying assumption that the children are sort of a burden and something to get through. Regardless of what the parents and caregivers are thinking (and no matter how rational that thinking is!) I think those children should be told that 8 is the absolute jackpot grand prize and that all the adults in their lives feel blessed and lucky. Maybe that is the message but in the few shows I saw that didn’t seem to be the case.</p>
<p>“It is like the kids were put in a circus side show before they reached age of consent.”</p>
<p>Yes, but I don’t think it’s qualitatively different from kids being on TV or in movies as “actors.” They’re famous without making a choice to pursue fame, images of their childhood are out in the ether forever, etc. I don’t watch J&K+8, but the kids are a lot less famous and exposed than, say, the Olsen Twins were at that age. Up to a point, the law trusts parents to make those judgment calls on behalf of their kids. There’s no other way.</p>
<p>Hannah, I’m fairly squeamish about child actors, especially a situation like the Olsens where they began the business as infants. Some child actors seem imho to be the highly unusual kind of early achieving extremely focused individuals no one could reasonably argue for holding back from their chosen life’s work. “Prodigy” is not one of my favorite words but it sort of says what I mean and it seems to me, again jmo, that it is possibly wrong to hold kids of that type back because of age. But to put infants and children on tv to make money??? I do think some families have difficult choices to make and maybe the J&K choice was the best one possible for their family. Overall I really do think parents make the best choices possible for their own families.</p>
<p>It’s probably really a good thing no one has me making decisions for them lol.</p>
<p>I have seen a couple of J & K, but she drives me up the wall…or she is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I find her truly comical…okay she talks about keeping germs down and her fears of germs, but as the 6 were being potty trained she drove around with potty seats in the car…ooooh gross! I saw a preview that they were getting 2 dogs…it seemed like they were in a different house.</p>
<p>I do not begrudge them b/c this was the way she could stay at home and they could afford to give everything for their kids.</p>
<p>As a dog owner I would tell them not to get 2 dogs…dogs are very tempermental and bringing both in at the same time with 6 kids under 4 is asking for the dog to be stressed out. I also hope that the rescued their dogs, but I highly doubt a rescue operation would allow it…we rescued our boxer and it was insane how they interview and do house visits, but I am glad they do!</p>
<p>Alh…you are absolutely right about the requests for pictures of pre-delivery and post-delivery photos from wackos out there, lol. When I was pregnant with the triplets, I used to get a newsletter called the triplet connection. I would pour over it from page to page to see how long the pregnancies went, what the babies birth weights were etc. I clearly recall that they used to have warnings in the newsletter that there were people calling, or mailing pregnant women of supertwins, requesting photos…and NOT to send them, because they were pervs…lol. Pretty sure that wasn’t the term they used, but its how I processed it. I do have 1 polaroid picture of myself an hour before delivery, which is still shocking to see…ugh. I lost 75lbs the day the kids were born, lol…problem was that last 24…I was literally a whale…after a couple of weeks, I was just stuck with an extra 10. It sure didn’t take long to be worn to a skinny frazzle. It was funny to see how many moms of multiples are actually really thin…and I do think its because of lack of sleep, not eating on a schedule and just non stop running around.</p>
<p>Its funny how vividly those memories still are! The lack of sleep for me, was the worst of all. To this day, sleep is my #1 priority…I feel like I have so much to catch up on, and the kids are nearly 22…:)</p>
<p>There is no way this woman is parenting her kids in any way. If it were me, and I were going out, I’d never leave the house without at least 2/3 of her first 6 kids. Thats what they need too! To get out with mom…go to McD’s…whatever. I used to take 1 kid out by themselves everyweek, for whatever errands I had to do. Its so easy to stay home with them, because of the logistics involved in getting someone to watch them while you go out with one or two. But, its worth it for everyone. I got to enjoy their individual personalities when they saw new things…oh basically the same as most people do when they have thier kids one at a time. But since time is so precious and scarce with multiples ( I guess it is with most families)…since so much of my time in the early days was making bottles, changing diapers, and doing laundry…lol, every little second I had to be with the babies, I took. It is HARD to make sure they are each getting enough of mom. As great as dad, and grandparents are…there is just a special bond with mom and babies, that needs to be nurtured.</p>