<p>I’ve also heard that twins often share a crib in the early months – that they sleep better next to each other the way they were in utero.</p>
<p>I was wondering about the two-in-a-crib report, too. With healthy babies, I didn’t like them sleeping together just in case one accidentally cut off the other’s air supply. I don’t know if that is possible and I tend towards the alarmist. With preemies hooked up to machines to be sure they are breathing… how could they share cribs without potentially upsetting the equipment which seems to have so many false alarms already? Imho it is almost imperative to give even newborn multiples awake and alone bonding time and that could be together in the same crib, especially when they are newborns.</p>
<p>I liked how Dr. Phil explained that the children were better with Nadya than foster care alternatives</p>
<p>ps If not a crib for each how do you separate them when they get infections?</p>
<p>I also felt he did a good job explaining about them going into foster care…I hope that was an awakening moment to hear it on national tv.</p>
<p>As far as not being there…don’t you think you would be there. Is she saying that she just leaves the doors unlocked for anybody to enter? Everytime she opens her mouth I am not sure with ignorance, stupidity or lies come out, but I don’t think she has one honest bone in her body</p>
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<p>It will be impossible to separate them when they get infections. Think about it: How could the infants not catch things from each other and from the other kids? Downright impossible.</p>
<p>Just a frightening thought as a mom in my mind…14 kids with chicken pox at one time! For her it has to be even more frightening with the babies…silly me what was I thinking she probably hasn’t even thought of the danger to the babies if the 3 yr old gets them! I wonder if she realizes that the babies will be exposed to them before one pox appears.</p>
<p>I knew a family with 5 kids and a newborn. All – including the parents – got chicken pox at the same time. :(</p>
<p>There has been a chicken pox vaccine available for about 13 years now. If the older kids are vaccinated, the babies should be okay. I distinctly remember that vaccine coming out because my four year old came down with chicken pox and I was frantic for my infant and called to see if the vaccine was available yet. It was in the process of being shipped throughout the country to doctor’s offices – too late by just a matter of a few weeks. But is the exposure to viruses that kids get in a home with 14 kids that much different than the exposure that kids get in a day care setting?</p>
<p>I am pretty muddleheaded and confused aboout a lot of things— but I thought there was a chicken pox vaccine now, of course assuming you vaccinate.</p>
<p>You could probably put two little ones together in a crib until they begin rolling over. What was that, around 4 months? Perhaps it would be delayed due to the preemie nature of these babies. After that, I would suspect it could be hazardous.</p>
<p>Moms and dads of multiples on this board - how did you handle this? What worked?</p>
<p>I had not heard that one of the babies has a cleft palate…if this is true she is in for a long road with that defect (speaking from experience). My middle son was born with a soft palate cleft 7 years ago. He has been in the hospital just for clinics more times to count. The amount of surgeries he has had in 7 years exceeds his age. He has had everything from numerous ear tubes placed, to closure surgery, revision of closure surgery, p-flap surgery, etc over the years. And still will all that done his speech is still not very good. He has had speech for like 5 years now and still I am the interpreter and a lot of times I have a hard time understanding him. There will probably still be more surgeries to come as he gets older.</p>
<p>Another thing is babies with cleft also, sometimes, are born with a syndrome called Peirre Robin Syndrome. That is a small inset chin of varying degrees. This can effect breathing and could have sleep apnea. Also a lot of times they have a hard time keeping food down and there is many trial and errors to find a formula that might work or thickening the formula just so they can keep it down. My son spent years labeled as failure to thrive because of this. Later we found out he also had a growth hormone disorder.</p>
<p>Oh and btw did I mention that sometimes to find a competent cleft team you will have to drive a long ways. We are on our second cleft team and are considering finding a new one (I already travel the length of our state to get to our current team) because his cleft doc. does not think there is more they can do for my son.</p>
<p>BTW yeah she will probably get another SSI check for this child as well. SS considers this a long term disability and you can collect SSI.</p>
<p>When I was little, I had the chicken pox - a mild case. When I was a teen, I had it again - this time a very serious case. It can lead to death. </p>
<p>The vaccine has been out for a long time, but when it first came out, doctors recommended a booster later on. They gave my D a booster when she was in middle school. My older D had a mild case, like I did. When he went off to college, we had his his blood checked to see if he had full immunity - fortunately, he did. If not, they would have given him this vaccine as an adult.</p>
<p>I can’t believe they would vaccinate the babies with the chicken pox because many vaccines are live and could cause a medical issue. I knew of the vaccine, was offered it I decided to throw my kids with anybody who had the chicken pos to give them the natural immunity. Unfortunately for me I also came down with it…very serious when you are in yor 30’s and another reason I am not a proponent of it…I like the idea knowing that they don’t have to worry about it since they know they have it.</p>
<p>On the show she even state he has a cleft palate, it is very apparent from the top lip looks like it has a gap. It is not the child on O-2. She described it as no medical problems just he will need plastic surgery</p>
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<p>Did she say lip or palate. From what you described its just the lip and that in fact is just a cosmetic thing. If its the palate (or has palate involvement) its a lot more than cosmetic.</p>
<p>Which show date was she on? I wanna see if I can find a clip.</p>
<p>It was on one of the two Dr. Phil shows that she was on this week. She said that the baby just had a small cleft lip, and that it did not involve the palate at all.</p>
<p>This was on Tuesday…I might have taken an incorrect jump, I never heard of a lip palate</p>
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<p>A cleft lip MUST be repaired at some point. Without the repair, there will be feeding and speaking issues. Depending on the depth of the cleft (is it lip only or does it go into the upper tooth ridge?), it can affect dentition and the like. It is definitely a medical condition until it’s repaired completely.</p>
<p>As someone born with both a cleft of the lip and palate 49 years ago, I can testify that yes, it can require several corrective surgeries over the years. However, to this day, I have met doctors with whom I’ve had to tell them I was born with this, because upon first glance, they cannot tell. I was fortunate to have been born in Houston where the top cleft palate/lip reconstructive surgeon in the world was at the time (thank you Texas Medical Center). All of my major surgeries were done by the time I was two (actually only two surgeries) and the final cosmetic surgery was done when I was 17. I am sure my parents did not collect any disability checks for me. Insurance covered everything. I did end up having braces on my top teeth three times during my childhood. So yes, what happens to this baby will depend on the expertise of the docs that he is being treated by. I, too, also had lots of ear infections as a kid, but then again, so did D1, who does not have either of my conditions. </p>
<p>I also found out last summer (after having an eardrum rupture on a plane flight when I had a cold) that swallowing is not as effective for me in clearing my ears when flying due to a compromised palate. The ‘annoyances’ I’ve had to put up with as an adult are minor compared to some of the disabillities attributed with being a premie, that are there for life.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a link to info about the octuplet’s cleft link? I haven’t been able to find any on-line reference to any of the babies having that problem.</p>
<p>I never saw any reference to the cleft lip online – only heard about it on Dr. Phil. I had noticed the cleft before Nadya and Dr. Phil talked about about it.</p>
<p>It looks like she will be on Dr. Phil again on Monday. Following is from his website.</p>
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<p>Should be interesting. I imagine the audience may be hostile at times, and it’ll be interesting to see how Nadya defends herself.</p>