Official USC 2014 Transfer Thread

<p>also is it possible to be admitted into the fall semester if you get a SGR? Thanks!!</p>

<p>I’m not the traditional transfer student (I’m younger than most high school seniors) so I almost have to live on campus. My current university is close enough so that I can live at home. I am still not old enough to sign into a lease :(</p>

<p>@hopefultrojfan9 Absolutely can you get admitted into the fall semester with an SGR! That’s likely the only way I’ll get accepted if I have a crack at it. The one thing about getting an SGR, though, is that if you are eventually accepted, it makes finding housing much more of an adventure!</p>

<p>To transition into the housing question, I am definitely hoping to get something USC affiliated. Coming from the good ole midwest, I just would prefer to get comfortable close to that area (hopefully nearish campus), just so I can get situated there as I won’t have a car. Junior and senior year, hopefully I can room with some friends from sophomore year (and I do mean hopefully) in an off campus apartment.</p>

<p>But I am speaking in hypotheticals, of course. First, I need to get into the darn school!</p>

<p>@bomerr - Really!</p>

<p>I was sure that because USC is a private school, I would get more aid from them than from UCLA, or some other CA public school. </p>

<p>I would think that many people would receive more aid from a private school such as USC, which does meet full need, than they would from a public school as far as need based aid is concerned </p>

<p>When I was accepted into Emory, although my EFC was 16000~, we had to pay $26,000~ for the first year alone. </p>

<p>My financial situation certainly isn’t stable at the moment. My brother’s going into college this year; My dad was laid off just a few weeks ago. Not to mention that he was also laid off last April, so his employment situation certainly isn’t favorable. It hasn’t even been a year since he’s been employed, and he’s already laid off. Moreover, my EFC this year is 5600~. That’s less than half of last year’s EFC of 16000~. I don’t see how USC, a private school, would ask me to pay $36,000 for the first year alone with my current EFC of 5600~, when Emory asked me to pay only $26,000 with an EFC of 16000~. </p>

<p>@esai23 , Having read the thread you linked, it is clear that you were 100% in the wrong. Posters attempted to be straightforward and nonjudgmental with you, but you persisted with your tunnel vision only seeing things from your own perspective, at which point they became more forceful. Only one poster demonstrated immaturity on that thread, and unfortunately it was you. </p>

<p>@alamemom I read the thread and it did come off as if the posters were trying to find something that wasn’t there in regards to @esai23’s words. Esai seemed very straightforward then suddenly everyone’s attitude became very hostile. It was a bit uncomfortable to read because my interactions with Esai have been relatively positive and to see the thread take such a turn for the worst was a bit different for me.</p>

<p>I completely understood what Esai was saying and to some extent even agreed with them. However I see what the other posters were saying. I’m conflicted… Anyway, good luck to your brother Esai.</p>

<p>@alamemom - I’m sorry you feel that way. This is what I said that sparked the discussion - “It’s not like UCLA is the top of my brother’s dream school list, but it’s kind of sad to hear that there are OOS students who won’t attend such a nice school because of a lack of aid.”</p>

<p>After reading scahopeful’s reasoning, I can understand why some would get upset - It sounded like I was looking down upon those that got rejected, although I honestly was not trying to hurt anyone. It’s nothing short of the truth though - My brother would like to attend UCLA, but UC Berkeley is what he would prefer more. Moreover, I was expressing disappointment, not criticism - That’s exactly why I described UCLA as a nice school. How does that make me snappy or ungrateful? If you still can’t believe me, kindly look at the tone of my posts before I was called out as ungrateful and snappy. </p>

<p>@scahopeful- Thank you for your understanding. I did get irritated when people called me snappy and ungrateful when I certainly didn’t feel that way, and yes, I did go overboard with what I was writing after that point. I failed to see what you saw in their posts. They thought I was being cynical when I was originally expressing disappointment and sadness for all the other OOS students that can’t attend a nice school because of a lack of aid. </p>

<p>Before USC’s thread becomes UCLA’s thread, it would be nice if someone could share their thoughts on my question regarding financial aid at USC, and if possible, my situation in particular (which can be read a few posts above this one). </p>

<p>esai23 demonstrated great immaturity in her unwillingness to look at the situation from the point of view of a California taxpayer, and then she continued on to insult the university that she thought ought to be handing her brother $50,000 of California taxpayer (my) money.</p>

<p>Just to clarify for those who are too young to understand, at the UCs, California’s flagship public university system which is supported by California taxpayers for the benefit of California students, OOS students will pay a $23,000 OOS fee in addition to their FAFSA EFC AND an approximate $9,000 student self-help contribution. So an EFC of $5,500 + $9,000 self-help + $23,000 OOS fee = $37,500. esai23’s brother was in fact awarded a UC grant of approximately $18,000 of California taxpayer money. esai23 was entirely dismissive of that gift.</p>

<p>Many California taxpayers, such as myself, believe that no UC grants should be awarded to OOS students. It does not make sense to us that we should subsidize students from Alabama, for example, with our tax money. As California students are turned away from UCs in favor of OOS students to garner those out of state fees, please understand that the push to change those aid policies will intensify - and not in the favor of Alabama students.</p>

<p>But, it’s not like esai23’s brother really wanted to go to UCLA or anything, so no harm done. It makes one wonder why she would complain so about the lack of aid.</p>

<p>@alamemom - I’m a male. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Please don’t misunderstand me. I never said I was angry about the aid I received and I wasn’t complaining either.</p>

<p>If you read the first post of the thread, my question was - “I fully understand UCLA is by no means supposed to be “cheap”, but they’re asking us to pay more than 6 times our EFC. Is that normal for UCLA’s aid awards for out-of-state students?”. Please note that I said, “Is it normal?”</p>

<p>Yes, I admit - I am fully unaware of how California’s tax system/FA works - I’m just a kid who’s in college.
When did I insult the university? When did I say my brother should be handed $50,000. Why are you assuming so much? </p>

<p>And please hold your horses with your last statement- My brother would like to attend to UCLA. It’s just that there are other schools he’d like to attend and prefers more. I think this is what caused the confusion - I’m not complaining. Where in my original question did you think I was complaining? Maybe it’s because you perceive things differently because you’re an adult (as many of the other posters happened to be adults and a few felt the same also) - but I was not complaining. I wanted to know whether it was normal for OOS students to receive that much in aid, and how successful I would be in appealing. </p>

<p>This started with an innocent question but due to several assumptions, some made it seem like I was bashing the school, its students, and even the state of California! Please stop and at least ask me if that’s what I meant if you are unsure. </p>

<p>@esai23 , so sorry you feel things are off-topic, however it was you who posted the UCLA thread on this thread and asked for opinions.</p>

<p>Hopefully someone informed and experienced in USC’s financial aid policies will pop in and provide useful information in response to your question about USC’s financial aid. </p>

<p>@alamemom - You’re right. I’m going to stop responding in this thread and I’ll use PMs to respond :)</p>

<p>But I still haven’t received an answer.</p>

<p>@alamemom are you a mom?</p>

<p>@lanbernas , I am many things, one of which is a parent. Why do you ask?</p>

<p>I like cake. And brownie batter froyo.</p>

<p>@alamemom oh I was just curious. </p>

<p>@lanbernas , yes, you have demonstrated curiosity, asking good questions such as in this February, 2014 thread: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-southern-california/1611640-when-do-transfer-acceptance-letters-first-start-coming-out.html”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-southern-california/1611640-when-do-transfer-acceptance-letters-first-start-coming-out.html&lt;/a&gt; . </p>

<p>Is there anything else you would like to know?</p>

<p>Hi any of you guys know how to log into USC oasis as a transfer applicant? I tried to input my student id and password but it did not work. Do I login as a guest? Any info on how to log in will be awesome. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>@esai23
I don’t think you understand what the EPC is. The EPC is just your EXPECTED ABILITY TO PAY. Reread that. In other words the EPC is like your annual income; it’s what you are able to pay. The COA is the actual cost of the school. University, in America, isn’t a right, it’s a service, something you pay for. Sometimes people just cannot afford to attend a certain university and that is that. This is no different than someone making 80k a year and wanting to purchase a 300k ferrari. I don’t understand where you got the notion that every college should pay off your tuition in full. Grants are just the school cutting you a break, or giving you a little deal, it’s not anything they HAVE to do. </p>

<p>@WhiteTshirt - I believe you will log in to OASIS using your USC email name and password (which would mean you have to wait to be admitted :frowning: ). Years ago, applicants who had not yet been accepted were able to log into OASIS using USC ID and birthdate (no slashes), but it appears that loophole has been closed. All communication for applicants is now on USConnect until they are admitted.</p>

<p>EDIT: And “Guest” is actually for people who have been granted permission by a student to observe their records, such as when a student wants their parent to be able to log in and look at something. The student would have to set it up for it to work.</p>

<p>^ Thank you. I guess I will have to wait until June 3rd at the latest to find out my fate.</p>