<p>Opinions differ and it’s possible I’ve forgotten exactly what age group is most likely to receive special judicial treatment such as pre-trial diversion or adjudication, wiping of records, etc., along with why.</p>
<p>Sociopaths have no ability to empathize with people. They have no conscience. They feel no remorse at all for wrong doing. </p>
<p>By the time someone is a teenager, they already do or do not have a conscience and the ability to empathize and feel remorse, whether or not they express these feelings to others. Typical teen behavior can probably look a little like sociopathy, but if they are missing that critical quality of no conscience whatsoever, then that is where the resemblance ends. I don’t believe someone is “tipped” into being a sociopath as late as the teen years. I’m not a psychologist, however, so these are just my opinions, based on what I’ve read about sociopathy.</p>
<p>Not all people who kill are sociopaths, however. Which is how teens, with their tendency to act first without considering consequences, possible substance abuse issues, vulnerability to the mob mentality, and ease of being persuaded by other teens who may well be sociopaths might find themselves in court being accused of murder.</p>
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<p>A very unfortunate choice of words here. I think there is real lack of understanding of what a sociopath or antisocial behavior really is. It is unfair to stereotype any group as having this type of behavior.</p>
<p>Who could do something like this? My guess is these boys were probably abused/neglected from a young age. I wouldn’t be surprised if these boys started with torturing and killing animals. I seriously doubt they were “good” kids who just got bored. And yes, I agree with others, these particular teens (or the leader) may be sociopaths.</p>
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<p>And likely born out of wedlock and grew up without their father in the home.</p>
<p>I’ve been seeing in the news today excerpts from the killers’ Facebooks. It doesn’t seem that criminal behavior is a one-off for them. At least two of them seem to be entrenched in the thug lifestyle. I don’t support the death penalty, but I seriously doubt that these punks will ever be safe to be allowed in society.</p>
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<p>What a horrible thing to say…especially to an audience that consists of many parents of teens.</p>
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Then let’s blame the absentee fathers who don’t care that their sons will never be decent men.</p>
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<p>Yes, a positive male role model is important to a boy’s life and can change it dramatically for the better.</p>
<p>Also blame the mothers who don’t wait to get married to ensure that their children have two parents instead of one.</p>
<p>zooser is right again, I believe. An aussie paper is reporting that the three were apprehended sometime after the shooting after a call from a father of a schoolmate (?) who said his son feared for his life, (and somehow knew where they were). Apparently they were involved in some so-called gang activity.</p>
<p>Its hard to imagine how you would feel if you were the parents of the young man who was killed.</p>
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Given how literally it (and selected portions of what followed) was taken, I’ll have to agree.</p>
<p>Can’t claim any mental health professional credentials but the idea that developmental milestones are reached along a one-way journey isn’t such rocket science that one has to have been schooled to be aware of it. Which would suggest the later comment about “wannabe’s, with an option to decline” was tongue-in-cheek, too, but… </p>
<p>My apologies for the horrification I spread to the audience.</p>
<p>razorsharp stated "Yes, a positive male role model is important to a boy’s life and can change it dramatically for the better.</p>
<p>Also blame the mothers who don’t wait to get married to ensure that their children have two parents instead of one."</p>
<p>Before the hearing, Edwards’ father, James Edwards Sr., said he knew where his son was 95 percent of the time and would call or text him. The 15-year-old was involved in wrestling and football, his father said, and was trying to forge the same sort of athletic career as Lane. He was heading into his sophomore year in high school.</p>
<p>Read more: [3</a> Teens Charged in Slaying of Australia Player | TIME.com](<a href=“http://nation.time.com/2013/08/20/australian-baseball-player-shot-dead-by-bored-teens-police-say/#ixzz2ccOJPJ4E]3”>http://nation.time.com/2013/08/20/australian-baseball-player-shot-dead-by-bored-teens-police-say/#ixzz2ccOJPJ4E)</p>
<p>so much for the absentee father assumption. but it did give you the chance to bash women who don’t wait to get married which seems to be a persistent pattern.</p>
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<p>There are always exceptions. Even boys from great families commit crimes. </p>
<p>Woman who intentionally have children outside of marriage are bad mothers by definition. The population of boys from mother only households do not perform well when compared to populations of boys from mother and father households.</p>
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<p>WOW. Just WOW.</p>
<p>hmm…no mention of race from any of the major news outlets?..surprise, surprise. Was this a hate crime? If 2 white kids killed a random black guy because they were bored…any doubt the reporting would be completely different?</p>
<p>In light of the fact that this abomination is now an international incident, I do think the president should have something to say.</p>
<p>What would he say, other than the US has a sizable population of sociopaths that haven’t been caught yet?</p>
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<p>Men who intentionally or accidentally get women pregnant who aren’t their wives are worse. At least the women take responsibility for their actions. </p>
<p>So would you also say all divorced people are bad parents? (You don’t actually have to answer that.)</p>
<p>Zoosermom good point…I wonder if our great leader will address this.</p>
<p>…or does he just jump in when the apparent victims are black?</p>
<p>“Woman who intentionally have children outside of marriage are bad mothers by definition. The population of boys from mother only households do not perform well when compared to populations of boys from mother and father households.”</p>
<p>sources???
also Razor why make these statements when they are completely irrelevant to a particular case or situation</p>
<p>First, razorsharp jumps to the conclusion that the boys are fatherless. Based on news reports and the probable cause warrants, see e.g., <a href=“http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/a21jones.pdf[/url]”>http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/a21jones.pdf</a>
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<p>While I haven’t seen anything about the father of the third (Luna), I see no basis for concluding his mom wasn’t married when he was born. BTW, Luna was the only one of the three who doesn’t seem to have had prior dealings with the justice system. </p>
<p>Second, race. Based solely on photos, it would appear that 1 of the defendants is black (Evans), one is white (Jones), and one is bi-racial (Luna). Luna has a white mom who has spoken to the press. What basis have you, geeps, for raising an issue as to whether this is a hate crime?!!! I see no evidence whatsoever for this.</p>
<p>^ I simply asked the question…wasn’t that brought up right away in the Martin case?</p>