Omg...Tom Cruise is getting a divorce...

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<p>As far as the custody issues, notice she filed in NY not in CA. There would be reasons for that. CA has joint custody both legal and physical. Not knowing exactly the terms NY uses (someone else from NY might be more helpful) but they are not the same as CA.</p>

<p>I might be incorrect but NY refers to primary custodians for legal and primary residences. They do so for support, custody and visitation. I wonder how long she needed to be considered a resident of NY in order to file in NY for divorce and then for custody? States like NV it needs to be a few weeks for divorce but for custody the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction And Enforcement Act would want 6 months, which would be applicable in NY coming from CA.</p>

<p>So maybe the sole custody filing does not mean the same thing in NY that it means in CA.</p>

<p>Kat</p>

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<p>^ That’s harsh. John Travolta lost a child, anyone been through that?</p>

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<p>Re Tom Cruise. I’m sure it’s true that he exploits his power and money in ways he shouldn’t. Most celebrities do. My brother had dealings with Robert Redford and found him a real pill.</p>

<p>However, I did read the New Yorker Scientology article and feel only compassion for those caught in a cult. When TC made those comments about postpartum he was loyally spouting party line.</p>

<p>Maybe none of you have been in a cult or known anyone in a cult, but I have. TC was a dyslexic young person who felt Scientology the basis of his success. Silly? Yes. But also pitiable.</p>

<p>If it was a business arrangement, why does the buyer accrue more condemnation than the seller. Surely KH was not a street urchin needing food on her plate.</p>

<p>These are both uber attractive, successful individuals each caught and hurt by a sickening cult.</p>

<p>As for who with and when Tom Cruise has sex, I am much more interested in my own sex life.</p>

<p>And he did apologize to Brooke Shields. She accepted his apology. His position showed incredible ignorance, I agree. Poor him for being so ignorant and making such a fool of himself. I really don’t find this something to despise.</p>

<p>I do enjoy his performances and find them nuanced. It’s not easy to look so natural in so many situations (a la Cary Grant who never won an Oscar.) But if others don’t find him so, no quibble. Tastes in art vary. But that’s hardly a condemnation of his character.</p>

<p>KH was an adorable, spoiled daughter of a rich, controlling father. TC was a poor kid for suddenly found himself rich and powerful. </p>

<p>I don’t find either of them more or less culpable. </p>

<p>And I can’t see gloating about anything about their lives.</p>

<p>Sometimes I think it would be nice to have money and power; other times I think it would be a curse. But underneath, they are both still vulnerable folk like us.</p>

<p>As one CC poster used to say: We are all in this leaky boat together.</p>

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<p>Poor little Suri.</p>

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<p>My personal feelings are that all religions have some aspects of a cult. I do think that scientology is more cultish than others, simply because of the level of control exercised by its leaders, although control is a part of all mainstream religions. I can’t imagine what Holmes’ motivation was to subject her child to the insanity that is scientology but I hope she is getting out in time to reverse the damage.</p>

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<p>“And I can’t see gloating about anything about their lives.”</p>

<p>I totally agree with everything about your post #83, mythmom. </p>

<p>Imagine if every silly thing we said or did in our lives were televised, selectively, and written inflated stories, and held against us by the public for a decade. Tom Cruise jumping up and down on a couch. Whoopee, who cares? Making uninformed comments about depression (like you said, spouting the party line), then apologizing. Who cares? He’s a talented actor with a messy life as many of them have, but I enjoy watching him. I wish him and his family the best and hope they manage to keep the publicity down to a minimum for the sake of their daughter.</p>

<p>And I agree with cartera’s post #85 too. I personally know a bit about scientology, you hit the nail on the head. So many religions I think have odd, cultish aspects, but the desire to control with scientology is over the top.</p>

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<p>The Church of Scientology pretty much took over the whole local downtown portion of our local community, Clearwater, Florida. The Scientologists have their “flagship” headquarters based in Clearwater. Local non-Scientologists tolerate them, but largely with guarded reservation and suspicion. Whenever I drive through downtown Clearwater, with all the Scientologists walking around, I am reminded of an antfarm with all the robotlike Scientologists walking around. Many of the celebrity “Hollywood Scientologists” have homes in the Clearwater area, including Tom Cruise.</p>

<p>[Inside</a> the Church of Scientology: The Truth Rundown & follow-up reports | Tampa Bay Times](<a href=“http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/]Inside”>http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/)</p>

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<p>Wow, two allegedly closeted gay actors in Hollywood! I guess that must mean they want to have sex with each other! Ha, ha, ha!</p>

<p>That’s the level of homophobic “humor” I’d expect to find in the comments to a story on Yahoo News or someplace like that. Not here. Please.</p>

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<p>Have to agree with DonnaL on that one.</p>

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<p>The best book about Scientology remains the biography of L. Ron Hubbard called Bare-Faced Messiah. You can, perhaps, still find it on the internet. It has a tendency to get checked out of libraries and then lost on purpose. The book had the effect of getting the group to change its official biography of Hubbard substantially; it’s now an exaggeration instead of a series of outright made up crap. </p>

<p>I recommend to anyone that they go to a Scientology center and sit through the movies and the like in their presentations. You’ll eventually learn the thing is a science fiction story about Xenu and Thetans. You’ll be reminded this is about your immortal soul. And of course that psychiatry is the greatest evil. Read the book and you’ll understand why they say that.</p>

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<p>I thought the line about travolta and cruise was funny. Sorry but I did. As for Scientology, it’s just bizarre, but then I feel that way about religion anyway.</p>

<p>Wonder if the rock of ages movie went to his head</p>

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<p>^^^^ Agree. I thought the line was funny, too. They are both public figures and the “closeting” is all over the Internet, so it’s pretty much fair game for jokes. Some people filter every comment through the same old lens and there is no room for humor.</p>

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<p>I just hope he doesn’t become even more of a jerk during divorce</p>

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<p>Whatever do you mean, donna? They are both members of the church of scientology and have been the target of accusations. They can support each other. Thats what was meant. If you read more into it and want to blow it up into it into something it is not, well, thats your choice.</p>

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<p>I thought the line about TC and JT was funny. They seem to have similar interests and similar public perception. People say things like that all the time- it’s not just people we think are “in the closet”. Its people that have similar public personas or belong to similar “obscure” religions.</p>

<p>All of this of course is created by the public which is why it’s funny to me.</p>

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<p>The South Park episode that describes Scientology and ridicules Tom Cruise for being in the closet is my favorite episode ever.</p>

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<p>John Travolta is a Scientologist as well as Tom Cruise. I, personally think that it would be homophobic if both men acknowledged being gay and were being attacked for being gay. They don’t. Quite the opposite, the ridicule the very notion that they are gay and, by extension I believe they are homophobic. </p>

<p>The Pacific Palisades? (way back there on this thread)…It is a nice sleepy beach close area. Liberal yes…kinky…not so much.</p>

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<p>Of course it was!</p>

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<p>Thank you, Ellebud. Spot on! And thanks to to Romani and seahorses and MOWC and MizzBee and everyone who understood.</p>

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<p>Nice timeline of Holmes and Cruise</p>

<p>[Inside</a> TomKat: How Katie Holmes was cast to play Tom Cruise’s wife and the role Scientology played in picking his leading lady - NYPOST.com](<a href=“http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/best_supporting_actress_REdKcnpi4xPjBFGO4Yjp4M/0]Inside”>How Katie was cast to play Tom Cruise’s wife)</p>