Our responsibility as parents

[emeraldkity4]

<p>*I’ve yet to meet an Indian eventhough I’ve met a lots of Bengali’s, Gujrati’s, Punjabi’s, Tamilians, Telgu’s etc.</p>

<p>India for that sake is not homogeneous at all.*</p>

<p>Agree- they don’t even speak the same language.</p>

[jym626]

<p>That seems true for some on the cc threads as well, ek :)</p>

[ParentOfIvyHope]

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I just feel bad for the kids who graduate with a massive debt load and then get a job for which there is no need for a degree. I also feel bad for those kids who graduate and get a job for which there is indeed a need for a degree, but who were shortchanged in their education as the standards were lowered to accommodate the former group.

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<p>We missed the point of education when we thought that colleges or institutes are vocational training institutes.
It is a very narrow view in terms of an overall society. There are countries where you can get the technical education at the top university without any humanities subject knowledge. Such institutes can produce great engineers but not great citizens or human beings. </p>

<p>First and foremost goal of the college education is to provide the breadth of knowledge and then concentrate into the depth of a subject area of interest to the child.</p>

<p>I’ve met numerous engineers/doctors/STEM Phds that have gone into those major because of family pressure and are struggling not only with their careers but also with their life. They would have made a kiling as an actor, musician, TV reporter or an author instead they are stuck working in labs, companies without any passion.</p>

<p>So beware before you channel children into STEM when their real passion lies in Liberal Arts.</p>

[IndianParent]

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I certainly don’t have the data, but Espenshade and Radford had a data set reflecting applications about 15 years ago at a pool of elite institutions, and it showed that Asians overall represented 22% of applicants (as high as 33% at some of the colleges) and about 15-18% of the admitted students (not as high as 20% anywhere).

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<p>This was before the Elites admitted to having an “unconscious” bias against Asians, right? MITChris claims that the admit rates of Asians is higher than the general population, at least at MIT.</p>

[menloparkmom]

<p>Well SAID POIH!</p>

[jym626]

<p>Ditto, menloparkmom. Looks like h*ll has officially frozen over!!! LOL!</p>

[thumper1]

<p>I totally agree with Post #272! </p>

<p>And to think…I was just about to stop looking at this thread.</p>

[menloparkmom]

<p>Is that really you POIH?
Your thinking certainly has evolved…</p>

[jym626]

<p>Lol, I was just thinking the same thing, menlo. Maybe wife has returned from long visit home with family. Welcome back! </p>

<p>Anyone popping any popcorn yet?</p>

[ParentOfIvyHope]

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Is that really you POIH?
Your thinking certainly has evolved…

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<p>My views have never changed. I’ve always maintained children need to follow their passion. I’ve always maintained that children be brought up in a safe and liberal environment. They should be nurtured well and parent need to be open to their views.
In order to accomplish that I’ve maintained that parent should be responsible for their children education and should fund that and parent should not force children through religious education. It doesn’t mean I’m against religion as per but I maintain that children when become adult should pick their view point and follow it instead of brain washed by parent into a particular religion.</p>

[IndianParent]

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I’ve always maintained children need to follow their passion. I’ve always maintained that children be brought up in a safe and liberal environment. They should be nurtured well and parent need to be open to their views.
In order to accomplish that I’ve maintained that parent should be responsible for their children education and should fund that and parent should not force children through religious education. It doesn’t mean I’m against religion as per but I maintain that children when become adult should pick their view point and follow it instead of brain washed by parent into a particular religion.

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<p>Well said.</p>

[IndianParent]

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I’ve come across engineers/doctors/Phd in sciences from top universities who refuse to eat food at some one house just because the person cooks meat at home or not from the belief or some other blind faith issue.

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<p>Red or white meat?</p>

[IndianParent]

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Ahhhh, I think I see what has your nickers in a twist, IP. The word “rate”. The issue is the percent of deaths attributable to different causes, not the number across the entire population of living and now non-living people within any age group. What is more alarming, especially within a small overall population, is that 21% of deaths (college/grad school aged asian males) is attributable to suicide.</p>

<p>It would be interesting to see SES, education, acces to healthcare, etc, covaried with the overall suicide numbers collapsed across all age groups. My guess is this these are significant factors.

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<p>Touch base with Woody, JYM.</p>

[SlitheyTove]

<p><throws popcorn=“” at=“” the=“” screen=“” in=“” disappointment=“”></throws></p>

<p>This is just like when you see a movie trailer where you get all excited about how great the movie’s gonna be…and then the real thing just fizzles out. Like “Cowboys and Aliens”.</p>

[ParentOfIvyHope]

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Red or white meat?

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<p>Are you referring to Kosher or Halal?</p>

[IndianParent]

<p>I was planning to taking my son to it this weekend. Is it really that bad?</p>

[jym626]

<p>Re: post 293 -You’ve said that twice now, IP. No clue what you are talking about, but it sounds gross. Give it a rest. Robyrm’s posts about the rates (or subsitute another word of your choosing) of depression and suicide are most compelling, even if you’d rather ignore and banter about other stuff. No matter. Really. Good day.</p>

[IndianParent]

<p>No, I am asking red or white. If it is red meat, they are wise to avoid it. Clogs the arteries.</p>

[IndianParent]

<p>This is what Woody posted, JYM.</p>

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IP is right on the CDC Leading cause of death argument. That table just describes the percentages of the various causes of death - not the actual rates. Unintentional injuries account for a much lower percentage of leading cause of death in the Asian/Pacific islander females 20-24 (29.2% vs 45.9% for whites), so it would follow that the percentage of suicide as a cause of death in the Asian group would be higher. In fact, cancer and homicide as a percentage of the cause of death is higher too.
So although it may say something about the risk-adversity in these two groups, this particular piece of data doesn’t tell us anything about suicide rate of either group.

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[jym626]

<p>So the frequency of depression and suicide in young asians doesn’t bother you?</p>