Parents editing college student's papers

Spellcheck and grammarcheck! That’s rich! I WISH those helped my student writers more. (They do, however, provide some pretty funny mis-choices of what correct spelling to use.)

And don’t even get me started on the pitfalls of right-click-synonym.

I sense a money making opportunity for me to provide “editing” assistance as a second career. There is clearly a market for it.

I wonder if some of the parents still helping their children in college will be helping with work assignments.

My parents would never have dreamed of helping me with homework, even in elementary school, let alone later.

“You also commit collusion if you allow someone else to edit your papers. It is scholastically dishonest for students to employ tutors to correct, edit, or modify essays in any substantive way. The same reservations and restrictions apply, within reason, to any outside assistance you may receive from a parent, friend, roommate, or academic tutor. Any changes, deletions, rearrangements, additions, or corrections made in your essays should represent your own work. If you want assistance in a course beyond that which your instructor can offer in class or in office hours, you may use the DRW’s Undergraduate Writing Center (UWC) in the FAC or remote locations or the Learning Skills Center (LSC) in Jester A332. Tutors at these facilities are trained to comment on essays and to offer advice without editing or rewriting papers.”
https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/rhetoric/firstyearwriting/plagiarismcollusion.php

“5) “Defiantly don’t take it for granite.” Yep, that’s right, folks. Every time, I grade student papers, I see mistakes like these. Note: I teach sociology, not geology. Help reinforce with your kids that writing for any class, not just their English classes, will likely be, and should be, evaluated for form and quality and not just content. Form can clarify or obscure the content. And, don’t edit your student’s papers; encourage them to go to the writing center so they can sharpen these skills.”
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/social-lights/201609/the-professors-study-guide-parents

So, I need to tell the au pair not to help with the French papers?

No @sorghum, You need to ask the teacher or instructor if that help is permitted. It would be much easier for the au pair to simply write the paper for you.

Your college student needs an au pair? :wink: Actually, focus on the verbal part.

It’s unfair to have a in-house native speaker of a language that your child is studying. Fire the au pair.

Or just use Google translate- wait that’s prohibited at my kid’s school too! No wonder the class turns in perfect French homework but can’t pass a basic quiz…

Yes, that’s a good idea.

My colleague as been tutoring a student with executive functioning disability since the student was in middle school. The student is now at an Ivy League and my colleague travels there to help the student understand and conceptualize paper assignments. I was BLOWN AWAY by this and thought it was cheating. However the colleague, whom I respect, pointed out that it’s a well paid gig, it’s a long standing relationship, the student and family are respectful and the student benefits greatly from the help.

Now I feel: to each his own. Everyone wants to do their best. And if families have the resources they will do whatever it takes to acheive their definition of success. It’s expected. It’s part of being a parent. It’s why all of us parents are obsessed with the college game and why we spend our free time on College Confidential.

And, yes, cheating is rife. Many teachers and professors dread discovering blatant cheating and plagiarism because at educational institutions, bringing charges of academic dishonesty are incredibly stressful. Until teachers and professors feel supported by their institutions (not threatened) on charges of academic dishonesty, this cheating epidemic will continue.

We have already seen mass disavowals of published scientific papers. Entire disciplines have lost credibility due to crap research papers published in leading journals.

Integrity is NOT in high supply these days.

Some parents seem to think so.

Just for French. The butler helps with English. :wink:

@CaliDad2020, you should have provided the entire paragraph of Harvard’s policy, I think:

So yes, parental proofreading may be allowed, depending on the subject area, but it has to be acknowledged in the submitted work. Oddly, I suspect most faculty would find that a wildly waving yellow flag, at minimum—but then again, I only know two Harvard professors, so I can’t be certain.

I read the University of Kent’s policy on academic integrity (as opposed to the FAQ you quote from). It is silent on the issue of parental involvement in papers, though, as you note, light copyediting seems to be allowed across the board. However, I’d warn against reading European universities’ policies with a North American filter—policies over there tend to be written in a much less exhaustive fashion than those over here. (And on this one, I do know a whole lot of faculty at European universities and have discussed this sort of thing with them, so I feel on firmer ground here.) Also, include here a similar caveat for Monash University, as an Australian institution.

The University of Scranton policy you quote does not mention parental involvement in its list of allowed involvement, and therefore (exclusion proving the rule, as I’ve mentioned before) one has to assume that parental involvement is not allowed.

The University of San Diego’s is an interesting one, because its plain text says that collaboration of any sort is always permitted, unless the instructor has said otherwise. I would be interested in seeing a review of syllabi and assignment outlines there, because with that as the baseline I’d have to imagine there are a lot of instructors explicitly stating collaboration isn’t allowed, at least on many assignments.

And finally, Pres Sullivan doesn’t directly address the question, does she? She simply says clarity is necessary.

Why does it have to be acknowledged?

^I was confused by the second assertion after reading the first one as well.

Guidance must be acknowledged because

I misspoke by mentioning proofreading in my reaction—I have that term on the brain too much, apparently—but any review going beyond that would have to be acknowledged.

I think that that reads very clearly to be students working together to complete an assignment, not throwing ideas around with another person i.e. “discussion of general approaches to the assignment.”

I don’t read it the same as you do; it happens.

@dfbdfb you are reading that proofreading passage incorrectly I believe. It clearly says “however, students need not acknowledge discussion with others of general approaches to the assignment or assistance with proofreading.” To my reading general discussion of the paper and proofreading is 100% permitted and does not need acknowledging. I believe the wording clearly means to disassociate “guidance” from “collaboration.” Someone who provides guidance on, say, a dissertation would not necessarily be considered a collaborator. I think a similar logic is applying here.

I’m a bit confused on your attempt at fundamentalist orthodoxy on these codes. I’m not a lawyer, but I think you are engaging in overreach. Scranton, for example, clearly lists “others.” Why a parent, or uncle, or grandparent would not be an “other” seems beyond me. But what all codes have in common is the final work needs to be the student’s own, synthesized and/or interpreted writing and cannot take the ideas of others without acknowleging. Which is as it should be.

Anyway, I don’t need to get into litigating the nuances of these as it is “academic” at best now. But this discussion has opened my eyes to the variety, and in some case very restrictive nature, of some codes. It’s a good warning to students and parents (although my guess is students are very aware of their particular situations.)