Parents of the HS Class of 2009 (Part 1)

<p>Congratulations to pieson! The birthday dinner for D2 sounded great, dte.</p>

<p>S2 ended up in a record breaking crowd today in Ann Arbor for the Manchester United soccer game. I still can’t believe he drove 8 hours in his new car to go to a soccer game! He did play soccer for a couple of years when he was very young but he gave it up in favor of volleyball and baseball ( and some basketball). I’m not a big soccer fan but I did watch the game . I wonder why I couldn’t see him? There were only 109,000 + people there! He has to drive back to DC tomorrow which makes me nervous but he is giving his new Ford a good road test!</p>

<p>Pleasantly cool (79) and overcast today – it feels great, got everything open. Tried a new hair colorist – she talked the entire time. Nice color, but she wouldn’t stop chattering even after I asked for quiet, so I won’t be going back. </p>

<p>DTE – that birthday party sounds lovely.</p>

<p>D did some kind of Zumba fund-raiser sponsored by her gym – it turned out to be held in a wildly campy gay bar, with a drag queen serving as MC. She said she had a blast, and laughed a lot. Kind of like living the Kinky Boots experience after seeing the show back in June when we went to NYC. Personally I’d be crying after doing Zumba for three hours. Or dead. More likely dead.</p>

<p>I miss EddieOdessa. Any word?</p>

<p>was listening to the radio on the way to work, The guy who wrote Sharknado is a kid who went to movies all the time, then took a film class in community college, and continued on to make sci fi films, etc… He also went to a 4 year school after community college.
We had a celebrity visit our hospital yesterday, very sweet lady initials TS. We were all star struck</p>

<p>I didn’t see Sharknado but watched Sharknado 2 when it was rebroadcast . Loved it and thought some of the cameos in it were fun. </p>

<p>Cool that you saw a celebrity at your hospital yesterday, DTE. If it was who I think it was- Taylor Swift - I do like. her. </p>

<p>Just popping in for a quick “hi”. Our big software update takes place today and will completely change the way I do my job. Lots of change for the entire office which is actually worse as my group has to hold everyone’s hand through this.
Haven’t seen Sharknado, maybe I should?</p>

<p>Everything I bought DIL for her birthday she loved and it all fits – well a bit big now but she will grow into it. Baby bump is getting more prominent. </p>

<p>Good morning.
Fall Girl, I will send you the “cyber goddess” mojo so that you and the new software have a compatible interface today…can’t help you with the handholding, though ;)</p>

<p>Due to extended leave of a key employee, I’ve had to take over client training, and it has given new meaning to the phrase “PICNIC” - Problem In Chair, Not In Computer :slight_smile: so handholding does not appear to become me!</p>

<p>Sevmom, I hope your son enjoyed Manchester United. Thanks in part to that game and the presumed traffic chaos, mcson stayed home and organized his new studio apt (the poolhouse) instead of going to AA!</p>

<p>The results are quite nice. I never thought he’d find a way to organize all that musical gear but he has done a fine job. The upstairs poolhouse now looks like a spacious bachelor apt/guest suite and he claims that when he heads west in a year, I can keep the furniture. Win-win!</p>

<p>Arabrab, when I moved to the states 11 years ago, I searched long and hard for a good hairdresser who didn’t natter incessantly. When I found one, I booked a standing that has lasted now for ten years :wink: I don’t know why they don’t teach them in training to tell when someone doesn’t really want to talk. Even feigning sleep doesn’t reliably shut some of them up. Maybe taking a kindle would help ;)</p>

<p>kmcmom, S2 did enjoy the game and Ann Arbor. They were able to walk to the stadium and then walk to some of the bars after the game so he had fun. Glad your son’s place turned out so nicely. He’s already much more organized than my kids with getting their place set up. My sons moved in to their new place last month but then S1 and the other roommate left soon after on travel for business. So, there were still boxes everywhere when we visited last week. The furniture is still just plopped down everywhere in the living area . Now that all 3 are finally back in town, they should be able to decide where to put things, put up pictures,etc.</p>

<p>FallGirl, Sharknado 2 is one of those things that is so bad that it’s good but it’s not exactly going to win any Academy Awards! </p>

<p>I recently recorded both Sharknado and Sharknado 2, since we hadn’t seen either. Saturday night H, S and I watched Sharknado. It was highly entertaining - we laughed the whole time; mindless though. </p>

<p>kmcmom13, I don’t know if I’ve heard PICNIC before, but I like it! We use the phrase ID-10T error (idiot). In fairness, we sometimes have our own ID-10T errors.</p>

<p>I credit my IT training and support experience as the reason I was the one who taught the kids to drive. I’ve learned to be patient, supportive and calm.</p>

<p>D who doesn’t deal well with fluctuations just found out that the people whom she is purchasing the house from do indeed need to rent it from her for a few weeks. This was the original plan but then she was told no they don’t need to rent it. Now they are back to needing to rent it. D called last night all upset because of the change because she had MADE PLANS. Well sometimes we just have to adjust kid. :slight_smile: I mean it’s not the worst thing in the world and she doesn’t need to be out of her apartment until the end of Sept. so she has 6 weeks from the close date. For us it actually works out as H and I won’t have to travel to his mothers on his birthday - which he didn’t want to do and we will go sooner to see her. Haven’t seen her since Easter time which is fine with me but she is almost 94 so should attempt to see her some. :)</p>

<p>I was thinking of Pie son when I posted the Sharknado thing.<br>
Kind of weird to have someone walk by and do a double take when you are at your job. thinking "oh my is that…?
I stink at computers but am getting better,
My husband loved Sharknado, he went on to watch the next one, but I went to bed. I had to work. he loves mindless things, I laugh about how happy he gets, he is such a smart guy (as cq family too) but loves the release</p>

<p>DTE, I totally got that you were posting similarities between Son and the Sharknado guy. Maybe that cc film degree wiill come in handy!</p>

<p>I saw the TS clip on the Today Show this morning. How cool!</p>

<p>RM, so glad that the gift of maternity clothes was well received!</p>

<p>Today is our 25th wedding anniversary. Something about that makes me feel very old. H and I decided this morning that the key to having such a long marriage is not dying and not getting divorced.</p>

<p>Last night a prospective client took me to his favorite sushi restaurant. That alone broadened my horizons. At 10 pm, when we were the last folks in the restaurant, he wanted us to go to the next place…a nice bar. I had to decline. What kind of groow up can actually go out like that on a week night?! </p>

<p>I hang out with mostly lawyers, and my suburban neighbors. The sushi place was quite the trendy spot, and now I see why Dallas women are stereotyped…it seems like every other female in the restaurant was tall, thin but with a large chest, had long blonde hair, and wore very tight white jeans. I tried not to let myself feel too much like a toad.</p>

<p>Happy anniversary MP. We celebrated our 30th at the end of June so I’m obviously MUCH older than you if that makes you feel better. :)</p>

<p>I doubt it RM. If I had stayed married to H#1 it would have been 33 years in June. </p>

<p>That’s so nice, RM. You’re such a good MIL!</p>

<p>Never saw Sharknado. Is it worth seeing? </p>

<p>Missy - I am almost certain you could never been compared to a toad. Aint going to happen. </p>

<p>But speaking of stereotypes… when I was younger, the nook was definitely a far more casual place than it is today. I still stick to the casual, as do most people who’ve been coming for generations. But there are some that have this place slightly confused with a more New York City/Hamptons vibe - of which this place is not. But I will be honest to say I am so glad D2 is not here this summer. First of all, she seems to be having the time of her life in NZ… and if I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again… both H&I are trying very hard to not let our bias show when we agree she has a real eye for photography. But I digress - nothing new there.</p>

<p>Here’s the thing… When we were kids, drinking age was 18. But even when legal, if I came home drunk or past curfew (usually one and the same to be honest), there were consequences. I also admit that I probably dabbled starting around the summer I turned 16. But then too, I was always one who drank less than it may have appeared as I just enjoy a party plain and simple. But I was never much of a rule lover to begin with, and definitely made my share of youthful mistakes. Anyone who knew me then would agree that it was not a straight and narrow course that I followed. </p>

<p>HOWEVER - I respected my elders, would have been in as much trouble if caught in a nefaroius circumstance by a friend of my mom’s as I would have been if it was my mother herself. It was very much a “it takes a village” kind of place. But there have been some incidences this summer with other kids whose parent’s main concern seems to be legal or employment ramifications vs any kind of personal accountability. This is not to say they are bad parents, but I just don’t understand that in lieu of real ramifications, there are none. No groundings, no house arrests, etc. It’s like if they don’t get caught by the nook police (think campus security with limited powers), it’s OK! It’s as if the bar has been lowered and the expectations right along with it. Gossip of a kid getting in trouble is repeated (like a game of telephone) is the norm vs when I was a kid they’d go directly to your parent AND they’d do something about it.</p>

<p>last night I was told about a parent who basically chastised the cop who brought her 15 year old daughter home drunk vs thanking him for bringing her home and then grounding her butt! Am I really that old or are younger parents just that stupid to think teaching their kids a disrespect for authority is a good thing? </p>

<p>I am fully supportive of a decreasing peripheral vision… where the eyes you had in the back of your head when your kids were young are now looking straight ahead towards the horizon (and a much bigger picture). But if one of my kids sticks something right up under my nose, it was/is my job to bust them! To not do so is abdicating the responsibility of being a parent and the real JOB of raising compassionate and accountable kids. The bar was set high for all of us when I was a kid. I screwed up royally on occasion. But I can’t imagine I’d be as “OK” as I am today had my parents not lowered the boom when I flagrantly misbehaved. The adage, as long as you live in my house, or I pay your tuition or whatever it was… actually worked! I just don’t understand what benefit there is to lowering expectations unless they really believe their kids aren’t up to the task, or they simply don’t care enough about who they become as adults to do anything different. And to be really honest, the response of, “Well, I did it and I turned out just fine” is complete bunk. The world is a very different place. Legal trouble is very real and sticks like glue. The stakes, dare I say, seem bigger.</p>

<p>I did not walk up hill both ways to school. I definitely recognize I’ve been granted a entitled life by many standards. I am not, nor have I ever been, a goodie two shoes type personality. Perfection is never expected. It wasn’t for me and it isn’t for my own kids. In fact, sometimes a little rule bending makes for a more interesting life! I get it. But there are limits and blatant rudeness from nook kids is simply unacceptable. And honestly, the bar should be higher for the kids here based on the fact that they ARE privileged, and they do have opportunities other families can’t even imagine!! We wonder why the world is full of greed and corruption, and white collar crime. Get a backbone, parents. How about just starting with a curfew instead of allowing them to check in the front door and sneak out the back!</p>

<p>Some parents are asking for more Nook laws and codes of conduct for specific employees, especially anything to do with jobs that oversee/mentor youth. My take on this is why should the gov’t (nook or otherwise on up the food chain) do your job as a parent??? These expectations were inferred and implied when I was a kid. It just was. And there wasn’t a need for firing kids because frankly, they knew their parents would kill them! And just because it’s too much trouble to ground your kid, or it’s hard when they push back when you attempt hamper their fun or even if you just want to be your kids best friend, the behavior is dismissed as “age appropriate”? I don’t get it.</p>

<p>Im actually thinking of writing an editorial for the Nook Press. Bad idea?</p>

<p>Like I said… I am just glad D2 at 20 isn’t here this summer. And she fully agrees based on what’s she’s been hearing halfway around the world!!</p>

<p>It has always been a thing for me about accountability. It is definitely bad parenting in my view to not make/or try your children acountable for their behavior. How frustrating for that policeman to being the 15 year old home and get that response. He could have thrown her a in jail instead. It could be I was raised in a military family but my H feels the same. I learned a lot form the wise director of the preschool my children went to. Her focus was always on social things in preschool. where parents wanted their children to read she thought the most important thing for kids to start learning was social. She said the hardest thing to do was to bring two adversaries together, to talk about their behavior, as they had to own their behavior they had to stop. She was always a mentor for me, she has parenting classes. I feel my kids have definitely felt the impact of her views. So far they are doing well.
The view here is that women from Texas are beautiful. MP you could never be a toad.
We just had 30 years too.
RM glad the present choice went over so well! </p>

<p>Moda I totally understand. My mom was a bit before her time. I had no curfew and for the most part not too many rules. Only one I remember is “don’t get pregnant”. I was allowed to drink - even with her around. For the most part I only remember breaking one rule. They for some reason decided the guy that I was interested in when I was in 6th grade was TOO old for me (he was in 7th but I will admit he did look and act older) so I was FORBIDDEN to date him. Didn’t stop me. I did it anyway and I think it was about a year before they realized it. Yes – my mom wasn’t too observing at times. Anyway I was grounded for a month. When the month was up a basically told them her that I was going to date him. I could do it in front of her or behind her back. In the long run I ended up dating him through jr. high and high school. We didn’t split up until he was at the end of his first year of college. She learned to love him and even after I left for college we were still friends and he would show up at my mom’s house once I had left. I took my punishment as it was given but made her realize in the end that perhaps it wasn’t a good rule. :)</p>

<p>I have noticed lately that parents are letting their kids get away with way to much starting at a young age. Recently I was in a restaurant - chain type and it wasn’t too busy but there were several other people in the their eating dinner. A couple with a 4-5 year old was letting the little boy run around screaming. When my kids were little they would be given one warning – if they couldn’t sit down and be quiet they would go to the car and one of us would take them to the car and stay with them. This couple seemed to think it was cute for their kid to disturb everyone else. Just no thought for others at all!</p>

<p>Ah, RM, that is one thing that drives my H crazy at restaurants. It never crossed our kids’ minds that they could get up from the table and run around. It Wasnt Done.</p>

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<p>A few years ago I heard a mom at church remark that she “just can’t control” her sons. They were 3 and 5 at the time. Heck, that’s the easy time, when you can actually physically control them, by picking them up if necessary.</p>

<p>Of course, I’m no one to talk and feel quite judged by people who, when hearing that younger D has tatoos, say “I would not permit it.” They claim they wouldn’t pay for college, would kick their child out of the house, etc etc. That’s all well and good if (a) it’s not a bluff, or (b) you have a child who won’t call your bluff.</p>

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<p>Parents in that situation should be so grateful that the arrest was by the nook police! It’s the perfect scenario…an authority figure who can pick them up and hopefully scare them, but instead of getting a criminal record, fine, etc. they get to go home, where the parent grounds them, etc. They should be thanking that cop!</p>

<p>missy…I do know families who said they wouldn’t pay for college if child got a tattoo. None of them have…at least in areas that show in bathing suits! :wink: I do know of another who did get a tattoo and parents took away their car and spending money. </p>