Parents of the HS class of 2010 - Original

<p>My oldest knew pi to something like 27 decimal places, I always thought 5 was more than enough!</p>

<p>DD is planning to focus on the ACT as well. The school offered a practice test of both and she did much better on the ACT. The one question is should she take SAT II tests in the event that someone requires them - she doesn’t want to but, after some discussion, she agreed to do more research to see if the types of schools that she is focusing on require them. (Small LAC). She does not want to go to the UCs so that eliminates one major set of schools that does require them.</p>

<p>Any thoughts on SAT IIs if the student has taken ACTs?</p>

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<p>I think D’s school does just the opposite. It is a very large and very competitive public high school (not magnet) and they are just crazy about trying to raise their numbers and rankings.</p>

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<p>D is still hoping for Barnard and they require 2. Otherwise, I would say don’t bother.</p>

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<p>From what I’ve seen (and granted I haven’t looked into this too closely), some schools will accept the ACT with writing in lieu of SAT IIs. I think your best bet is for your D to go to the websites of the colleges she’s interested in and see what their requirements are.</p>

<p>She is checking the schools on her list now - but that list is, shall we say ā€œflexibleā€?</p>

<p>D is taking the March SAT and the April ACT. Hoping for scores in her target range. If so, she’s done. That may be possible since her only reach is Barnard and she doesn’t expect to get accepted there anyway. I am sort of ashamed to admit that I told her straight out the other night that the right sscore on either of those tests would be worth cash in her hand. I’m sick to death of this and want the testing portion over. Then she can focus on AP/IB and living her life.</p>

<p>scualum- there are only a very small handful that require three, so if it were me, I would suggest she take two to keep her options open. How about one of the maths and maybe us history. That shouldn’t require much studying. She could always wait until the fall to see if she really needed them, but that would put her at a disadvantage for single year subject tests like history or sciences…</p>

<p>Sorry about the pressure from your school QM. I’m glad we have a more laid back environment, but for some kids it puts them into the ā€œclueless until its too lateā€ group.</p>

<p>and to expand on what Booklady said, some schools will take ACT OR (SAT I AND SAT II), and then there are some others that want (ACT OR SAT I) AND SAT II. Dartmouth is one in this second group. There is a list here also, I think in the ACT area, which lists the schools that require subject tests along with the ACT.</p>

<p>Everything I looked at wants ACT with writing if they don’t require SATIIs.</p>

<p>here is the list which I got from one of the testing subforums. I don’t know how official this data is… The asterisks say the subject tests ā€œmay not be requiredā€ if taking ACT, I think this might be a good first pass at the data at a glance and then dive deeper if you need the real answer from the school…</p>

<p>[Compass:</a> Admissions Requirements](<a href=ā€œSAT Subject Test Requirements and Recommendations - Compass Education Groupā€>SAT Subject Test Requirements and Recommendations - Compass Education Group)</p>

<p>Whether or not one should take SAT2s depends on the list, but I think to be on the safe side one should take them in May or June of junior year - especially if one is taking pre-calc or AP US History - neither Math 2 or American History should require much if any prep. if you are taking those courses. S2 will take Math2, US Hist and probably biology. (He’s in AP Bio.)</p>

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<p>That’s my reasoning, except D is taking Math 2 and World History (after AP).</p>

<p>zoosermom – I’ll also 'fess up to bribing D2 regarding SAT scores…</p>

<p>D2 (a jr) took PSAT’s in the fall. Didn’t do as well as I hoped, so her projected SAT scores are lower than they should be given D2’s courses and GPA. I looked at the questions she missed on the PSAT…it’s things she knows, she just didn’t read/understand the questions and/or answers. I’m not looking for 800’s … just for her to do better than the PSAT projected.</p>

<p>So I tell D2 she has to do some SAT prep work (our school district provides an online course). It was like pulling teeth to get her to make time for it…until a week ago. Coincidentally, D2 wants more piercings in her ears (she only has one hole per ear – which is apparently not cool). I don’t see the big deal and would let her do it, but H is not too keen on multiple holes and said ā€œnoā€. After many attempts by D2 to get H to allow her more piercings, I brokered a deal. If D2 scores XXXX on her SAT, she is allowed to get one more hole in each lobe. (This number is not a great stretch with the prep, and should allow D2 many options when it’s time to apply to colleges) If D2 gets XXXX+50, she’s also allowed to pierce her cartilidge. (This is more of a stretch…might get some merit aid at the schools she has in mind)</p>

<p>It’s amazing, but I haven’t had to nag about the SAT prep in the past week. Bad parenting? Maybe; but the way I look at it the piercings can happen in any event in about a year when D2 is 18 years old…I might as well use the leverage while I have it.</p>

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<p>D took the SATs a month after the PSATs and got almost points higher than predicted.</p>

<p>Does anyone know how much prep the SAT II Physics exam should take for the June exam if the student is currently taking AP Physics C? We do know, just as with Math 2, that the Physics exam provides a generous grading curve (or at least did in the very recent past.)</p>

<p>mathson did a little prep for the SAT Physics. There are definitely some topics that aren’t covered in Physics C. He’d taken Regents Physics as a freshman and felt a bit rusty, so he took the SAT2 in June rather than May. It’s hard to judge how much studying he did, not a huge amount, but he did read the review the missing topics in a review book. He’s awfully good at multiple choice tests, in any event, he did get an 800 on the test. YMMV.</p>

<p>Another missive from the Kingdom of Overthinking: D was invited to visit the potential department of one of her safety schools. Now, she really likes this school and might have it as her top choice, but she is (pardon me) very far above the average applicant there, so I’m wondering if she should somehow let the admissions people know that the academic department has invited her for a visit and that she’s accepted. To ā€œshow the loveā€ to a safety school in a situation where the admissions people might never know that she’s been there.</p>

<p>FAP: A couple of years ago S1 took the SAT Physics with no prep, at the end of Honors Physics (he went onto AP Physics senior year) and scored an 800. No further insight, but as I recall, he did not think it all that challenging.</p>

<p>S2 took the January SAT this year and scored a couple of hundred higher than indicated by his PSAT score. We knew he would not be available on the date of the March SAT (NASC Lead Conference in Harrisburg that weekend; anyone else’s kids attend these conferences?), so took the Jan Sat as his first try. He also took the Feb ACT, as a baseline. Now his plan is to retake the SAT in May, and take Physics and MathII SATs in June… He also wants to retake the ACT and may do that in June (although again its awfully close to finals) or wait until next fall.</p>

<p>Zooser – she can discuss it in one of her essays. Calling to say ā€œXX Dept. invited me to visitā€ seems a little heavy-handed. </p>

<p>S2 is taking the March SAT. He has done one practice test a week for the past month and has kicked up the scores a notch or two. If he pulls the score he got yesterday on the practice, he will be beyond thrilled, and he will be DONE. He won’t need to take the ACT – will do SAT-II Spanish Lang and/or Literature in June.</p>

<p>ā€œshe is allowed to get one more hole in each lobe. (This number is not a great stretch with the prep, and should allow D2 many options when it’s time to apply to colleges)ā€</p>

<p>mrsrref-i was reading too fast, and thought you meant the extra piercing would give your daughter more options when it’s time to apply to colleges. Who knows, maybe it will!</p>