Parents of the HS Class of 2011 - Original

<p>Don’t send a 720 Math II: it doesn’t really help.</p>

<p>Renaissance mom, I would certainly send. It is a fine score.</p>

<p>Congratulations on the acceptance Kathiep ! And congratulations on the improved SAT scorers!</p>

<p>Still aiming to hit submit on those EA apps by this weekend (preferably Friday) at our house. But she did hear back from one school where she had applied using a priority app - and she is in!! Was very excited to hear that - she said she was going in today to tell her GC this - apparently, he told her that you never hear back from any school before Dec 15th!</p>

<p>720 is 68%? Wow. That’s all I can say. Unless the school wants a math specifically, just send the 2 required I guess. Althought I’d have to agree, if 720 is disappointing…wow.</p>

<p>Well, you have to remember that on this test 800 is 89th percentile. There is no score which is 90th percentile or higher? My view is to send any score that starts with a 7 or 8… We are sending five SAT II scores.</p>

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<p>Wow, but I guess it sort of makes sense. I wonder what percentage of college applicants takes any SATIIs? Really only the top applicants, so the 720 would be 68% of the top, right?</p>

<p>UT: I’m with you. I don’t think this score will add anything to his app. he has a 750 in the bio and an 800 in the history. his SAT scores are in the top 1%. I’m hoping that he’ll do fine w/ just 2 SAT IIs. it’s really disappointing for him b/c he took a number of practice tests and did so well, even in the notoriously hard Barrons book he was scoring a 770. i’m not sure what happened. it just wasn’t his day.</p>

<p>he’s signed up for next week’s test and if he does well he could always email those scores to his admissions reps at the early schools so that they see them by the end of nov.</p>

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<p>If they don’t require 3 SATII scores, they can’t penalize a student for having just 2. Taking these tests costs time and money and not everyone can waste them on the things that are nice-to-have.</p>

<p>What I am trying to say here is that not sending MathII score should not hurt your S. I am not sure if sending 720 will hurt his chances or not.</p>

<p>missypie: on the college board website the stats for this particular test (Math 2) are:</p>

<p>155,952 take it (the highest number of any of the SAT IIs, followed by US history at 119,903); the mean on the test is 648. I think around 1,600,000 kids take the SAT each class year. So yes, it’s a very small percentage that takes this test.</p>

<p>and as Aniger mentioned, a perfect 800 is at the 89%. My son was hoping for at least a 760, which is at the 78%. Yes, crazy, I know.</p>

<p>RM: just be sure that the schools he is applying to are not “all scores” schools. if you report only two and three show up, that would look bad. I agree with aniger that anything starting with a 7 is worth sending. Even MIT states that as the case.</p>

<p>all of the schools he’s applied to allow score choice. gosh, i really don’t know whether to send this score or not. i do know that it isn’t a competitive score for the schools he’s applying to and may actually be considered a weak score.</p>

<p>Just to elaborate—
MathII has the easiest curve of all of the SATIIs; 11% get 800s. The only test we had S2 retake was his 740 MathII, and he bumped it to 780.</p>

<p>I think submitting a weak test that is not required does not help, and for elite schools, I think anything less than a 750 on MathII falls into that range.</p>

<p>RenaissanceMom, I’d ask about this on the specific school forums. My gut reaction is that for MIT or Caltech and similar, I’d be inclined not to send it, but I seem to recall that they require it. For public schools, I agree that anything starting with a 7 is good. For other top private schools, I’d go with the two good SAT II scores and leave it at that.</p>

<p>I would suggest not sending it. Percentile-wise it is an outlier on a strong set of scores. He is applying to tough places, I infer, so it won’t help. No upside, potential downside = don’t send.</p>

<p>Congrats to all on the good news. D is using her spring scores and she probably won’t know a thing about school acceptances until April, so I cannot relate!</p>

<p>Happy dance to college acceptances and SAT scores that bring a smile. I agree with those who suggest not sending the 720 Math SAT score. Adcom will probably assume it was an off day if you do decide to send espec if Math section of SAT was high and Math grades are high in tough classes. After all it is only a few questions wrong. Highly doubt this one score will change a decision to accept or not.</p>

<p>Another vote not to send it, assuming he is not applying for a program which requires a math SAT score. Just to offer a bit of reassurance, at the time my oldest was applying, three was the requirement for most of his schools and many kids sent more than that. He sent his three, and did admirably in the admissions process.</p>

<p>bluiguana, YAY!!! So happy for your son’s outcome. Good for him!</p>

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<p>Yes, and I had to do some persuading to get this across to my very literal, very honest D.</p>

<p>One of her supp apps asked, “What other schools are you applying to or considering applying to?” She balked at leaving the high-power music school off the list, but I don’t want the other 5 to see that one because I fear they’ll assume she’ll automatically go there if accepted (which is not the case).</p>

<p>So I told her, “Don’t think about it at this moment…right now you are NOT considering it. Now press submit!”</p>

<p>Bad Mommy, probably, but strategic…</p>

<p>Do any of you saying not to send the 720 Math II score have kids who have taken that test? I know one person on this thread say their kid’s score went up with a retest, but I was always told it’s considered one of the hardest SAT II’s…and any score above 700 is excellent. Maybe not for Cal Tech or MIT…but just about everywhere else.</p>

<p>Stanford used to suggest the Math II score be submitted …don’t know if they still do.</p>

<p>My D took it. I think the kids taking it are very self selecting (e.g. strong Calc BC junior year kids). Also, one gets it or one does not. D’s classroom peers were all hoping for 800s. Other tests are very different. For example a 700 on the Lit test is still quite a high percentile. The score distributions are available at the website.</p>