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<p>Have you seen their full ride(including books!)scholarship? Unfortunately S has no interest, but what a deal! Potsdam also has auto full ride merit and I think Alfred may also.</p>
<p>Yes the full ride at UB is a great deal. It’s on the list!! We visited Brockport with my older kid. They give $10,000 merit which brings the in state cost to $8,000 a year and OOS to about $20,000. Can’t beat it!! Too bad the school was not a good fit for my kid. My friend’s daughter got $10,000 from Oneonta and they are now paying about $8,000 a year. The SUNYs are a great deal for in state and OOS. SUNY Oswego gives merit and they have an occupational therapy program with SUNY Upstate Med Center ( one of those 3+3 programs). Geneseo has the same.</p>
<p>Wolverine great test scores!!! I am with you- I am open to suggestions but please keep your comments to yourself as you do not know my kid!! Thanksgiving should be a real joy!! LOL</p>
<p>I ran into somebody at the supermarket in August of 2012- around the time that my older kid was applying to schools. This woman has a daughter who started out at my kids top choice school ( mine attends it now) and her kid hated it and transferred. My kid loves loves loves it. I sat there while she kept convincing me not to let my kid apply: there is nothing to do (her kid had nothing to do, my kid plays sports at the school for fun and loves it), there are no hotels in the area ( really? The place is loaded with clean hotels- maybe not the Ritz, but good enough), there is a meth rehab clinic down the street ( really? I have not seen it and if I do, oh well- And your kid at NYU does not have drug centers nearby?), the work is too easy ( ok maybe for your kid but for mine the work is just right), blah blah blah. I ran into her recently and was so happy when she asked me how my daughter is doing at the dreaded awful school. I looked right at her and told her that my daughter could not be happier. </p>
<p>Potsdam reportedly has an unbelievable music program. Unfortunately my kid needed oboe extra help. Music and art are not in D15’s future.</p>
<p>I noticed that, with D, the University of New Mexico has started advertising itself as THE state flagship. I think New Mexico State University would take issue with that!</p>
<p>So funny to hear you Northerners talk about craving enchiladas! Do they ask red, green, or Christmas up there?</p>
<p>Ah, the A school and the B school talk…you really have to smile and nod when families get involved don’t you? This is a good reminder for me as Thanksgiving approaches. Both sides of the family make stupid declarations about where D “should” go. They don’t understand when I get angry. I’m going to start sipping wine or nibbling chocolate turkeys before talk turns to college…</p>
<p>I’m really liking the sound of honors colleges in large schools, particularly state schools. It’s a great way for a kid to get the best of all worlds. Even kids like my D who would benefit from a small school would be comfortable and then she also gets the chance to grow into the larger school. (My middle D felt that she’d outgrown her campus and what it had to offer her by the end of her junior year.) My only niggling concern is that if you choose a state school you’d have to choose a school that draws a healthy group of kids from beyond the state. Suny Binghamton, back in the old days, felt like a continuation of high school because it was so heavily populated with kids from the area where I’d grown up. UConn honors looks like a wonderful, top flight program but my older girls rejected it (free or nearly free tuition) because it felt too incestuous. Schools like Alabama, Wisconsin, South Carolina seem to be interested in bringing OOS kids in and of course the “flagship” schools are always attracting OOS kids. </p>
<p>For you NY-ers, if the weather in Buffalo wasn’t so extreme, I would say this should be the NY flagship. It’s close to Toronto, offering a more international experience, it’s closer to a real city than any of the other campuses, and it has some very good graduate departments. We have family members who went to the med school there and I’m not exaggerating when I say that they are all at the very top of their fields today. If it’s any consolation to you, while the undergrad schools may be underrated, the med schools are top notch and highly respected–and a great deal for med school.</p>
<p>NO stem- what does that mean? Can you tell that I am off from work today? I have been posting all morning!</p>
<p>3girls you nipped it by saying that Bing may be an extension of high school. My daughter would go if she " had to," but it’s not her first choice. I actually prefer UB over Bing for the exact reasons you mentioned. The honors dorms are also away from the " general population" of kids. I actually went to UB undergrad and although it gets cold and snowy, they do an amazing job of cleaning up and the school never closes. The research they do there is top notch- it’s really a great school. UB also has a lot of diversity which you don’t see at Bing. Diversity is a huge plus. My list ( LOl I have to discuss this with my kid so that it becomes her list) has about 8 state school honors programs and about 8 privates.</p>
<p>I’m surprised at the bias towards OOS flagships here because typically they have terrible FA (merit and need both) and so many people here seem to be chasing money. </p>
<p>Some honors colleges are meaningful. Some are a few selective classes and a designation on the transcript. It varies wildly.</p>
<p>IJD I am basing my OOS state school choices on friends who have kids attending who received merit money ( graduated 2013). 2013 grads from our school have gotten decent merit to several out of state publics: UMD-CP, UDel, Ohio State, UConn, University of Florida, Georgia Tech ( public? Not sure). The amounts range from $10,000 up to $24,000. There have also been decent merit awards to several privates. </p>
<p>You never know unless you cast a very very wide net and apply to a bunch of schools, public and private. Of course the school has to be right for your kid or else all of the money in the world means nothing. Also I realize that things change from year to year. My nephew graduated from our HS 3 years ago and got 75% tuition to U of Miami and Emory and 50% tuition to UMD-CP ( all merit).</p>
<p>Hey- you just never know…</p>
<p>You have to look carefully for sure but there are some wonderful options out there. I’m intrigued by South Carolina. It sounds like it has the potential to offer a world class education with talented peers in a beautiful setting…at little to no cost! Now getting in is another problem :)</p>
<p>[Honors</a> College - University of South Carolina](<a href=“South Carolina Honors College - South Carolina Honors College | University of South Carolina”>http://schc.sc.edu/)</p>
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<p>I never heard the term until I started reading CC a couple of years ago. Because I’m from NY also? Maybe, but maybe it’s a term used when discussing colleges here that isn’t really used anyplace else.</p>
<p>Here in Ohio we have a flagship - that would be the Ohio State U - biggest and highest sat/gpa admits, but many kids who can get in there instead go to Miami for the guaranteed merit/smaller campus, or maybe Cincy for the co-op programs. We have other campuses that CC folks would call “directionals” - a lot easier to get into, though I think each has an honors college or other special program that is is known for.</p>
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<p>None are on our list to even look at for mostly that reason. There are two in-state Us she is considering and I believe the rest will be private.</p>
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<p>This is exactly why, especially with prices these days, everybody needs to cast a wider net. Our biggest state publics (UMich and MSU) don’t tend to give much merit money to IS kids, especially anything that’s guaranteed for stats. UMich has the Shipman scholarship which is EXTREMELY competitive, but it’s actually administered by the Shipman Society which is a private organization separate from the university itself. MSU has a competitive scholarship program by invitation that offers some scholarships up to full-ride level, but it’s a roll of the dice to get invited and who knows whether you’d be offered enough to make it affordable?</p>
<p>Our OOS target list will start to come together more in December when we see how D2 fared on the PSAT. If Nat’l Merit is a possibility, she’ll be looking seriously at Kentucky, UCF, Ok State, Bama, UAB, Miss St, etc. to see if any of those might feel “right” to her. There’s not too many schools in the Midwest that offer sizeable NM scholarships, so she needs to look further out. If NM isn’t in the mix, her stats already guarantee her full tuition at Bama, full-ride at La Tech, etc. We’re big fans of words like “automatic” and “guaranteed” when it comes to merit money…especially since travelling to any OOS scholarship competitions would have to be limited. South Carolina is one that she may be considering for a “take a shot” type application…but we’ll see.</p>
<p>OHMom…didn’t you mean to say THE Ohio State Univ instead of just the Ohio State Univ? :)</p>
<p>@Wolverine86 I think it’s hard to believe that UMich only offered your D. that little bit of scholarship. But of course we only have one kid and she is only a high school junior. We may find out she is offered nothing in 1.5 years even with her good stats. I’m so glad she is thriving at UMinn. If I knew my kid would be thriving at a certain school, I’d definitely send her there right now.</p>
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<p>See that’s how you can tell I’m from NY, not OH ;)</p>
<p>D1 was recruited heavily by both our state Flagships - UGA and GT( Twogirls GT is public)
They both have programs to keep the brightest in GA. In state students applying for these will already have earned the GA Hope scholarship.</p>
<p>[Welcome</a> to the University of Georgia Honors Program](<a href=“http://honors.uga.edu/c_s/scholarships/f_f/foundation_fellows.html]Welcome”>Foundation Fellowship - UGA Morehead Honors College)
[Georgia</a> Institute of Technology :: President’s Scholarship Program :: Home](<a href=“http://www.psp.gatech.edu/]Georgia”>http://www.psp.gatech.edu/)</p>
<p>From our experience about half of these awards stay instate and the rest are offered to OOS kids. UGA offers a OOS tuition waiver, GT does not.</p>
<p>We are thinking hard about d2. She has the stats to be accepted at both UGA ( hopefully Honors) and GT. COA will be about $15k. Both are great options. I am really tempted to guide her towards applying to both and being done. Can you imagine how stress free that would be? 2 applications and sit back. Doubt that will fly with d2. </p>
<p>So question of the day, where should she apply if she was your d?
Criteria:
South East ( drivable to Atl)
Wants sports to watch ( and play maybe club softball)
COA less that $20K
Pre- med??? Chem as Major
Wants college town experience
Sorority- could be an option
Not too small/ rural
Loves school spirit- class officer, SGA etc</p>
<p>Well there is the perennial CC favorite safety, Bama…maybe Emory if you qualify for any FA or there is merit?</p>
<p>No problem. I know plenty of Ohio natives who think THE Ohio university is in Athens. Back in the day, OSU was open admissions, and the smart kids went to Miami. OSU’s administration has done a great job of fund raising and lobbying to change that.</p>
<p>Sally, before you completely give up on small schools, it might be worth visiting Davidson. It has the other qualities you mentioned, a great endowment for financial aid, and a super-engaged student body. It wasn’t quite my older kid’s top choice but it certainly was a finalist.</p>
<p>SOG- Davidson was rattling round in my mind. Didn’t look at it for D1. My good friend thought it may be too conservative for d2, definitely worth investigating. Thanks.</p>
<p>No FA for us. Emory gave my eldest $17k/ per yr. Not enough to make it feasible. D2 doesn’t quite have the stats that her sister had, so not even on the radar.</p>
<p>Please don’t attack me- but I don’t get the love for Bama on cc. In our area, kids that don’t get into UGA go to Bama. I know NMF get a full ride, so that would definitely change the equation.</p>
<p>Yes SomeOldGuy, that was the case way back when. I went to Miami. ;)</p>
<p>I have a feeling my D will end up at one of those two schools as well. It’s too early to tell, but that’s my guess.</p>