@inn0v8r - They want to go to medical school and we have a requirement that as a fallback, they need an engineering degree since we are paying for it. Y is known to have a great premed program and we know many successful doctors who have have undergraduate degrees from Y.
Y has an interesting engineering department. They show that they average 1 faculty per student. With that level of attention, the rank becomes immaterial.
@fretfulmother - I have heard it is reasonably common for premeds struggling to get a B in organic chem.
@fretfulmother yes maāam, but because Iām going to grad school for sure my parents are set on me going to schools with most financial aid (in this case y and p). MIT is too intimidating with its stem only focus and academic pressure. And Cornell is unaffordable. I have a full tuition scholarship to wustl, but itās still cheaper to go to y because we are very reliant on financial aid. Another possibility is Columbia but I visited it and didnāt like the scattered campus.
@inn0v8r - I donāt think it would matter whether one is a premed or not. I feel having a 1:1 student to faculty ratio in engineering means you get unlimited opportunities.
@debate4ever - that makes sense. People have told my family IRL and on CC that if thereās a significant financial difference at that level (P vs. Y in particular) that you should follow the money. My guess is that you will love it wherever you land!
While I was a grad student at Y, I was a TA for physical chemistry class designed for non-chemistry major students and the class was taken mostly by pre-med students. I was a little bit disappointed during the time. I still remember the professor was joking while grading that he was scared one of the students became his doctor and opened his skull for surgery. I remember some of the students were really genius but the most of them were kind of normal. Maybe, I put my caliber to high.
@debate4ever, yes schools do close the financial gap, or match; but I would be willing to bet that it is because they re-cast your finances in a different light, and look for where they could give more money according to their internal policies. Then they would keep integrity with that (new) approach throughout your tenure. That is what I would suspect. Maybe if you ask them how they arrived at the new FA offer, you could better evaluate. I doubt they just up the ante to win.
I forgot to add my real point. Only tiny number of students at those top schools are real genius and the most of them are not. So even though kids feel inferior to attend those schools, donāt worry. No problemsā¦
@texaspg thanks, I see what you mean. I think it is 4:1 if you count the full undergrad class, but that is still pretty good. One thing that bugs me though is their BME program is not ABET accredited.
Just a general shout out for those of us who do not have ivies on the list ā¦it is still a difficult decision here! Two great choices at state schools/honors program engineering programs with more than amazing merit aid offers. One additional great offer that is so unique and different and a niche fit, but definitely a different choice financially. Still do-able, but somewhat stretching thingsā¦but a great opportunity that my son may not want to missā¦but the financial differences (loans, part time work)ā¦yikes! How does one pick???
@texaspg correct, but student/faculty ratios are typically quoted as the undergrad enrollment / professors. So for instance Caltech is one of the lowest with 1000 students / 300 profs, which they quote as 3:1.
But really, 4:1 is great too. I mean no offense to any Yale fans.
My DD decided not to apply to Yale last minute due to the fact that even though school has excellent reputation, CS department is undeveloped. It is interesting that they have 1:1 ratio. Is it due to the fact that not too many engineering majors apply?
It is not across Yale, it is specific to engineering school.
Theoretically, there are only about 1.5years of classes one takes in engineering school in order to major in engineering. So I think their equations are correct irrespective of how colleges measure this.
For a similar number, Stanford will require 700+ professors in CS since they graduate almost that many in CS department.
@Ballerina016@texaspg So I think weāve established it is a 4:1 student/faculty ratio for Yale engineering. That is not wildly lower than their 6:1 student/faculty ratio university-wide, so I donāt think it is an issue of not having enough engineering majors.
To be sure, the number of classes offered and associated small class size seems like a great positive for Yale.If you look at it, they have 75 majors, which over a class of 1350 means about 18 students per major. I think the smaller-sized majors is by design.
@texaspg are their other benefits to Yale that you would highlight?
Congrats on any good news I missed