Parents of the HS Class of 2018 (Part 1)

Hi, @mweb136

We’re in CA. Here are his stats:

GPA: 3.97UW , 4.5ish W, 4.0 college GPA (30+ dual enrollment hours)
Class rank: 17 or so out of 450-500
Test scores: 1490 SAT (single sitting), NMSF, 4 APs, with 2 more this year (4.4.5.5)
Community service: 150 or so hours, more if you count the EMR training
ECs: drama spike with awards and leadership, writing club with leadership, Anime club

His weaknesses where Elks MVS is concerned are low community service hours, no job and our income. I think he will advance to state, but I’m only giving even odds to advance out of state.

Do you have a student who applied? If yes, here’s a link to this year’s thread: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/other-major-scholarships-competitions/2035489-elks-mvs-2018.html

@DiotimaDM thank you for the link. My son did advancce from local too and we are from NJ.

1420 SAT, 3.9 GPA, 48 credits combined from AP and dual enrollment. My son has been working all four years as a camp counselor in town over the summer. I am happy to see they consider that towards leadership. President of FBLA, officer for student council, etc. wish he had some more community hours, but most of his volunteering hours were for the honor societies. I would be appreciative of any financial help!

Good Luck!

I’ve been accepted to High Point University and UNC Asheville as well!!

@mweb136 Congrats to your S on advancing, and best wishes for moving forward! :slight_smile:

Mini-milestone here. The last of 9 applications was submitted today. So, with the exception of HS scholarship applications, the waiting begins.

Happy holidays everybody.

My D has 5 applications still going, but as of today, all 5 have rough draft supplements written. There is a light at the end of the tunnel.

In the mail: letters from school after school, pointing out that they have not received her application yet. Yes we know. Not clear how these letters are helpful.

I did the same thing mine wanted to add another AP I told her no
Enjoy the ride

Just a reminder. You can appeal financial aid decisions. You actually compare what you have gotten from other schools (in a chart form) and request more money. We had good luck with this with both our girls.

S will probably be in wait mode into January, since he hasn’t gotten his FA package from Ithaca yet. It’s probably going to be very close, but the line will need to be drawn somewhere. Of course there are benefits to choosing the less expensive option (opportunity for more pricey semesters abroad/off campus, taking his car to school, ect.).

Good luck @cardinal2020mom today! My S is at the surgeon now with my husband. Take care to everyone having wisdom teeth removed!

@mstomper your son’s FA package from Ithaca should be in soon…my daughter’s arrived yesterday. Not as much as we needed but will be appealing. School is closed until January 3rd so it will be a project for the new year.

@swimsoc2013 - mind sharing what methods worked for your appeals?

Resurfacing from the hectic holiday weekend here. Good luck to those waiting on FA awards and scholarships, and to those who still have kids submitting apps, like my D.

Good luck also to the kids having wisdom teeth removed. My advice is to make sure you keep them iced up at least for the first 24 hours. Hope it all goes smoothly!

@MinnieFan, I just hope they don’t hit us too hard on home equity. Our house has appreciated in value and will be paid off in a few years. We also have a retirement/rainy day fund they may get us on. This is money we can pay our hands on for a new roof, new furnace, or new(er) car. All these things are holding out, but are living in borrowed time. We are definitely more debt averse than the average family.

I am 18 and got my wisdom teeth out in October… FEED YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER AN ENTIRE PINEAPPLE BEFORE THEY GET THEM REMOVED… it makes the swelling last less a day rather than 2 weeks. I got into Elon, Providence College, University of Tampa and Michigan State so far!! All were accepted for my desire major and currently working on scholarships for these schools, specifically Elon (fellows and odyssey)

Still waiting for an answer from Umass Amherst, Bentley, Wake Forest, USC, James Madison and Penn State… Has anyone heard any good or bad reviews on these schools? I’m applying for the business schools for all of them (finance major)

And has anyone heard of easy scholarship opportunities I am in need of money because I have to pay for my entire college experience and that includes application fees, SATs, and the entire cost to attend.

Thinking about financial aid packages and debt, we’ve talked quite a bit with our kids over the years of the expense of school relative to the returns. Our plans have always been to fully cover them for tuition, room & board, and most incidentals for 4 years each at the cost of the in-state public universities, since there are at least 5 in our state that are very strong (although they range in selectivity and prestige). S16 was always happy to go in-state public, but D18’s initial dream was to go to school in New York. We told her that would be fine, but we could only pay the amount that would go toward in-state public and she could take out loans for the rest if she didn’t get scholarships to cover it. We are not eligible for any need-based aid, but we still want to be careful with how much college costs for each of our kids because we are nearing retirement age and don’t want to have unnecessary money concerns. And, we don’t feel that the big cost differential between public in-state tuition and a no-scholarship tuition at an out-of-state public or a partial scholarship at a private (but still substantially higher than in-state public) tuition is worth the huge price differential…especially multiplying the additional $10 - 30K+/year by 4 years.

Over time, D18 realized on her own that it would be better to go the instate public route for undergrad since she plans to go to graduate school, and at that point she can be more selective and apply for RA/TA positions to cover the costs…or find a job that offers tuition reimbursement. Where our kids end up going to school is not nearly as critical as what they make of the opportunity - through strong grades, internships, and network connections with faculty and alumni, as well as independent clubs they join or start.

Our company hires many new graduates and while a BS/BA from a prestigious university may give an initial boost to consider a candidate, we rely much more heavily on transcripts, intern/job experiences, work samples, and strong interviews that provide a detailed look at a person’s strengths and skills. We’ve had some so-so hires from undergraduate programs at Harvard, UVA, Brown, and other institutions, and some amazing hires from U of Kansas, Minnesota, UMCP, etc. And, the company offers substantial tuition benefits to these recent bachelor’s degree recipients so they can pursue a master’s or doctoral degree, regardless of their undergrad institution.

Now we’re in the tricky spot where D18 has a substantial scholarship to a less-selective in-state public vs. our hope of acceptance to the state flagship, where we’re pretty sure she won’t get any scholarship. Since we offered to cover the full price for in-state public, I’m curious to see what path she takes - but at least we know we can afford all of her options and can afford it if she decides to change universities or majors after she arrives.

Sorry for the long email, but after reading recent research on the relationship between college prestige and long-term outcomes, I just wanted to share thoughts and hear other perspectives (since D18 could still potentially complete a few common or common core applications over break now that the essays are done:)).

@lifegarding would you mind sharing what state you’re in?

We are Maryland, and I can relate to the question of merit aid vs more prestigious school…

@Astro77 we are in Maryland, too. We tried to search for strong out of state contender schools, but all would end up costing at least $12K more a year and they don’t seem better than the in state options. She was only interested in schools within 250 miles of our home town, though. If they were further away, we’d have to factor in travel costs that we won’t have wth in state schools.

@lifegarding my DD got a very nice package from UMBC. Also WVU is very affordable due to substantial merit.

UDel and George Mason also offered nice merit, but still are pricy OOS.

We are anxiously awaiting UM-CP, as I’m sure you are!

@lifegarding, I approached this much like you did. I told my girls what I could pay and that after that it was their choice. Older D had lots of great merit offers but ended up attending a private school whose FA brought the school in range. I was and am completely fine with that choice and it has worked out really well for her. For us, as long as the school was within budget (and some acceptances came that were not in budget), then it was important to let my D choose based on fit.

I do think that for the majority of kids, if they are hard workers and motivated they will do well wherever they land. I think work ethic, not the perceived prestige of the college a person attended, is a much better predictor of long term success. Truly, one of the most successful people I know went to a college that many people may never have heard of.