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honestly, it is difficult to predict. With past years, I would say it was lower chances due to the UW score … however, with the Smeal pathway changed, DUS should become less competitive. It may depend on the competitiveness in her HS …

I don’t know if checking summer instead of Fall really gives her an advantage. Do you have a regional AO you can touch base with tomorrow? In theory, the ā€œdirect summerā€ vs. the ā€œfall with summer backupā€ should meet the same criteria. I don’t know if that makes a difference in reality.

sorry I’m not much help. I think at this point, it is a waiting game with the changes that have happened.

tough call, but given that the middle 50 for ACT for UP is 30-34, I’m going to guess not to submit. That is a strong GPA and I would hope that would carry significant weight.

What major? My son was 4.2 W with 1430 SAT, APs, activities. Applied for Fall 2023 to Smeal. Did not get in for Smeal fall, but was accepted for summer. He would have been 100% accepted for undecided fall. Each major is a little bit different. We are in state.

It’s really difficult to tell but at least she won’t be competing against as many would-be Smeal majors.
I think it’s a :+1: either Fall or Summer depending on what the ā€œcouple Csā€ are in and how rigorous the class was (ie., was it a C in Graphic Design? In AP English Language but she ended up scoring a 4 and submitted it?)

As @anxiousmom711 said, it’s all over the map. So.. anytime within the next 6 weeks.
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what kind of high school? public? Private? etc

Six weeks is such a long time…sigh. If anyone needs me, I’ll just be over here hoping my daughter actually checks her portal so that I don’t have to wait a minute longer than absolutely necessary to hear something.

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Hi everyone, wondering if anyone can give us any insight (reassurance?) about how long it has taken the STARS record on your student’s application checklist to go from ā€œReceivedā€ to ā€œCompleted?ā€

Although I knew from reading here that the STARS should be submitted as early as possible, by mid-October at the latest, my daughter unfortunately wasn’t able to submit her STARS record until October 23rd because she had to wait for confirmation from her school about a current course title/level being changed - she didn’t want to risk submitting an incorrect course title and face consequences for being untruthful on her application.

She submitted the rest of her application yesterday, October 30th, but this morning her application status still says that her supporting materials are still being verified. The status next to the STARS record says ā€œReceived.ā€

We called the admissions office today and was told that we need to wait 24 hours after submitting the STARS record for it to show up, and I told her that it had actually been submitted 8 days ago. She looked it up and said it just got pulled into their system today (yikes) and that the main application is due Nov 1 but that STARS (and possibly other supporting material, I’m not sure) has a grace period and a deadline of Nov 5th to be complete.

We’re both pretty worried that her STARS record will not be reviewed and marked as complete in time. Has anyone else kept track of how long their STARS status stayed at ā€œReceivedā€ before being changed to ā€œComplete?ā€

My daughter’s was very fast, like less than 24 hrs between ā€œreceivedā€ and ā€œcomplete.ā€ She had already completed and submitted STARS for another school though, so I’m not sure if that made the process faster? I think you should be fine. The reason they give until the 5th is because lots of students will still be submitting their apps right up until the deadline.

The Cs were in two of her science AP classes unfortunately.

The 4’s she got on her APs were on the other AP courses she took that she got A’s in. Thank you so much for your response!

This is very helpful. We decided to keep ā€˜Fall with the summer’ option. Just didn’t think it was right making the last minute change based on your feedback.

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Thank you for sharing. She applied DUS and yes we are PA residents as well.

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Since you are super knowledgeable, a friend made me nervous last night saying the College of Education is now hard to get into if you’re below a 4.0 and my daughter should’ve applied DUS. Her application and EC’s are a perfect fit for her intended major within the College of Education but since they don’t look at that, should she quickly switch to DUS or leave it since we submitted 8/1 and EA closes today

Leave it as is.
I’ve never heard nor seen that College of Ed is hard to get into specifically - it tends to be considered relatively easy to get into compared to others, keeping in mind they do maintain the regular PSU requirements (which I recall your child has).

There was a hullaboo there because the dean wanted to defend diversity initiatives as essential to education and due to the political climate was forced to resign or switch roles. It doesn’t mean admission standards have changed nor that previous diversity initiatives made admission easy - the initiatives were meant to train teachers ready to work in a variety of school systems with very diverse students and I bet the curriculum will continue under another aegis because if students don’t want to work in urban nor rural districts and don’t want to deal with families&kids who are still learning English .. then they shouldn’t be certified in PA :laughing::blush:

None of this would impact your child who is going for a very specific major in line with her ECs and career plans.

Thanks so much! I’m very relieved to report that her application is now showing as ā€œunder reviewā€ and the STARS record is marked as complete this morning. :sweat_smile:

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Looking for ā€˜confirmation’ on what we’re expecting in a decision

Expecting alt campus admit

Kinesiology HHD

EA, applied for fall w/summer session option

Stats:

3.23 UW GPA

School does not offer AP/Honors classes

Test optional

Extremely small private school OOS (class of 20, no rank)

9th/10th grade were rough, lots of illness, and undiagnosed learning disability

Strong upwards trend from 9/10 to 11, Jr year alone GPA is 3.7 to 4.0 range, not sure of the exact number (school doesn’t publish official GPA, only estimated cumulative from counselor)

ECs (although PSU doesn’t consider iirc?):

Competitive gymnast 20h/wk

Gymnastics coach

Lots of health related service projects/volunteer

If anyone has any insight on what we should expect, we’d be happy to hear.

Perfect. Thank you so much for this information and help throughout this process!!

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I think your expectations are realistic.

With a 3.23 UW and no AP/Honors to compensate and no test score to raise the profile, I would not expect a UP admit.

Honestly, an alternative campus (Altoona, Harrisburg, etc.) would be a great place to start if thinking DPT school. Kines majors have some tough frosh/soph classes with the bios and anatomy classes - so take those in a smaller environment, hit the ground running, have a strong GPA for DPT school. The Kines program is well-respected among DPT schools, so have a strong GPA to be a competitive candidate.

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Perfect, thank you.

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@cv08 this is wise advise.

It is not uncommon that UW GPA’s in the College of Education may trend strong than some other schools since lots of HS students intending to head to Coll of Ed may not take a strong balance of AP and/or science classes.

However, no one really knows what DUS is going to look like. And I think DUS admissions may play it close to the vest and admit later as a pool. They are going to want to understand their candidate pool since they’ve had a major change this year.

I also would not be surprised if Smeal releases decisions later also. They will need some good data with regards to predictions and yield and how many to admit.

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